adverb Posted July 11, 2022 at 03:47 PM Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 at 03:47 PM Thinking of getting a 2017 Energi. We do a lot of errand runs (6-8 mi one way) so I planned to use EV as much as possible and charge at home. What kind of EV-only range can I expect from a 2017? Will I have to worry about replacing the battery? Any other concerns I should be aware of? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzicman61 Posted July 11, 2022 at 07:34 PM Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 at 07:34 PM I have a 2017 FFE. Over the last 2 years, the battery has taken a beating and I now get about 20-22 miles to a charge. Of course, in the winter, that drops down to 14. But I don't drive a lot and typically short trips so I still average a pretty high MPG per tank. If you can test drive the vehicle, have them fully charge it first and see what you end up getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted July 12, 2022 at 06:22 AM Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 at 06:22 AM Without being able to test the battery it is really hard to say, though you will likely get enough range to do the whole trip on one charge. Even badly degraded batteries get ~14 miles per charge. First thing to do is see what the car's range "estimate" is when fully charged. That is a good start, though not completely accurate. If you can drive a full charge to see how many miles and kWh you get from 100% to 0% that will be the best and most accurate way. It mostly depends on how well the battery was treated by the previous owner(s). Battery replacement is really not a concern. Very few have ever died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theterminator93 Posted July 12, 2022 at 03:19 PM Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 at 03:19 PM With 6 years of HVB degradation as an early production 2017, ours only has ~4.5 kWh of usable EV range before it switches to hybrid mode. My wife is not as gentle on the car as I am but she still can get 20+ miles on a charge. If I'm careful I can get 24 miles (plus 2 more in hybrid mode) before the ICE kicks on. I think it's safe to say you'll be OK to get 12-16 miles. Getting that kind of range in winter may be a challenge though, depending on your climate. The best way to measure your HVB's capacity is to start with a full charge, reset the trip odometer, then do some in-town driving in EV Now mode (use the button on the center console) until the display says EV Now Not Available. At that point, look at the used kWh. Anything over 5 kWh means the battery is in very good shape, considering its age. 4-5 kWh would be typical wear IMHO. Anything much less than 4 indicates a battery that has not been well taken care of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolster Posted November 19, 2022 at 09:36 PM Report Share Posted November 19, 2022 at 09:36 PM On 7/12/2022 at 6:19 PM, theterminator93 said: With 6 years of HVB degradation as an early production 2017, ours only has ~4.5 kWh of usable EV range before it switches to hybrid mode. My wife is not as gentle on the car as I am but she still can get 20+ miles on a charge. If I'm careful I can get 24 miles (plus 2 more in hybrid mode) before the ICE kicks on. I think it's safe to say you'll be OK to get 12-16 miles. Getting that kind of range in winter may be a challenge though, depending on your climate. The best way to measure your HVB's capacity is to start with a full charge, reset the trip odometer, then do some in-town driving in EV Now mode (use the button on the center console) until the display says EV Now Not Available. At that point, look at the used kWh. Anything over 5 kWh means the battery is in very good shape, considering its age. 4-5 kWh would be typical wear IMHO. Anything much less than 4 indicates a battery that has not been well taken care of. Is Ford has something like SoH (State of Health) data about battery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted November 20, 2022 at 04:10 AM Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 at 04:10 AM On 11/19/2022 at 1:36 PM, Coolster said: Is Ford has something like SoH (State of Health) data about battery? Unfortunately no. Or if they do, they're hiding it. The only way to measure your SOH is using the test described in the post you quoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theterminator93 Posted November 20, 2022 at 08:05 PM Report Share Posted November 20, 2022 at 08:05 PM (edited) Not that I'm aware of - there might be a PID available in the OBD-II reader/app of your preference, but I haven't gone snooping. Edited November 20, 2022 at 08:05 PM by theterminator93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolster Posted November 21, 2022 at 01:30 PM Report Share Posted November 21, 2022 at 01:30 PM I want to increase mileage on battery and guys proposed to disassemble mine and check SoH like below. Are somebody interested in results? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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