49er Fusion Posted February 3, 2021 at 03:52 AM Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 at 03:52 AM Hello is there and adapter I can by for my 120v charger and is the 2018 fusion charger to make to work for 220-240v ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theterminator93 Posted February 3, 2021 at 04:32 AM Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 at 04:32 AM Are you asking if there are 220/240 level 2 chargers for the Energi? There are indeed. Assuming you have the correct level of electrical service available where you intend to charge, there are a number of ways to get level 2 charging for the car. You'll need a level 2 cable to match your local electrical code (hardwired where required, or plug-in style). From what I've seen the Energi may only draw 16A of level 2 current, so knowing that (and if you don't intend to get a BEV or newer PHEV that can take a greater current draw down the line) you can look into less expensive chargers that don't support a high charge current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted February 3, 2021 at 04:31 PM Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 at 04:31 PM To charge at 240 volts you would need a suitable wire run from the panel to the garage. In my case that was 75 feet of 6 gauge 2 conductor plus ground cable. I used a Leviton 16 amp EVSE that had a 6-50 plug attached. 99% of my charging since 2013 has been at 240 volts. It is correct that the maximum current an Energi can take at 240 volts is 16 amps. A full charge takes just about 2 hours. I think the model number was EVB-16 but I don't think it is available any more. Do a search for EVSE and you will find lots to choose from. The original Ford supplied EVSE did not do 240 volts. It has been reported that the one supplied when the original was recalled is capable but it requires internal modifications. Since I already had a 240 volt EVSE I did not look into the changes that are required. Note: All electric cars have the charger built into the car. What is generally called a charger is an EVSE (Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment). It takes AC in and puts AC out. Electric only cars that support DC charging do take in DC. The Energi is not capable of doing that. The new Mustang Mach-E does have that capability using a CCS connector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted February 4, 2021 at 05:49 AM Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 at 05:49 AM (edited) On 2/2/2021 at 7:52 PM, 49er Fusion said: Hello is there and adapter I can by for my 120v charger and is the 2018 fusion charger to make to work for 220-240v ? It sounds like you are asking if the 120V EVSE can be used on 240V with an adapter? If you have the newest EVSE from Ford (the one with the all Black J1772 plug that goes into the car, pictured here) then yes, technically you can, but you are taking a risk you may not want to. The plug is a standard NEMA 5-15P for use in a standard household 120V socket. You would never find 240V on that kind of plug, at least not legally. It has been reported by people who have done so that this unit, when plugged into an improperly wired socket, or an adapter that adapts a 240V plug to a 5-15R socket, will charge just like a 240V unit (~2 hours). But any warranties would be voided and the risk of fire is all on you. Turns out this unit uses the same internal circuit board from Clipper Creek that is used on other 120/240V EVSE units. So it works, but Ford didn't want you to use it that way so they put a 5-15P on the end. Edited February 4, 2021 at 05:55 AM by jsamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
49er Fusion Posted February 8, 2021 at 11:16 PM Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 at 11:16 PM Thanks any idea what the cost is roughly to charge at 120v for 6 hrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted February 9, 2021 at 12:26 AM Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 at 12:26 AM That largely depends on your price for electricity. Your losses for 120V charging are ~10% more than for 240V charging, so it will take a little more juice to get a charge, but only nominally. At 12¢/kWh a full charge would cost around $1. So it would be ~$1.10 for 120V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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