Fgolman Posted April 27, 2019 at 08:25 PM Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 at 08:25 PM I just replaced my OEM charge cable due to the recall. Although the new one is quite nice it doesn't have an integrated cable spool design. It's just the control box and the charging head. So, my question, given that it sort of fits into the (also factory replacement) storage area under the load floor, does anyone have any ideas as to how to coil the cable more neatly now? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted April 27, 2019 at 09:47 PM Report Share Posted April 27, 2019 at 09:47 PM Can't help yet. I think mine is on a slow boat from China. Monday will be a week since it was supposed to have been ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted April 28, 2019 at 04:03 AM Report Share Posted April 28, 2019 at 04:03 AM (edited) I just replaced my OEM charge cable due to the recall. Although the new one is quite nice it doesn't have an integrated cable spool design. It's just the control box and the charging head. So, my question, given that it sort of fits into the (also factory replacement) storage area under the load floor, does anyone have any ideas as to how to coil the cable more neatly now? Thanks! Is the unit the same size as the old one? It's possible you could go back to the dealer and ask for the piece back. It snaps on and off of the unit. BTW: thanks for the heads-up. I'll take my old cord wrap off my unit before taking it in this week for a new one. Edited April 28, 2019 at 04:07 AM by jsamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippoking Posted May 1, 2019 at 02:52 PM Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 at 02:52 PM I got the new one, its very rectangular now. They took the old one and said they are sending it back to Ford. I mount mine to the wall as I use it every night. And they give you a replacement foam piece for the trunk since it's different dimensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted May 1, 2019 at 03:58 PM Report Share Posted May 1, 2019 at 03:58 PM I got the new one, its very rectangular now. They took the old one and said they are sending it back to Ford. I mount mine to the wall as I use it every night. And they give you a replacement foam piece for the trunk since it's different dimensions.Can you post a photograph of the new one? My dealer is apparently having trouble getting me the new one. 10 days and counting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippoking Posted May 3, 2019 at 02:10 PM Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 at 02:10 PM On my wall (and now my watch begins) jsamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted May 3, 2019 at 02:49 PM Report Share Posted May 3, 2019 at 02:49 PM On my wall (and now my watch begins)Thank you for the picture. I'm still waiting for my dealer to do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 6, 2019 at 05:19 AM Report Share Posted May 6, 2019 at 05:19 AM (edited) The new design sucks but went to Home depot but a extension storage device and 2 velcro straps crude but it works. Edited May 6, 2019 at 05:20 AM by 68mustangjim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted May 7, 2019 at 04:29 AM Report Share Posted May 7, 2019 at 04:29 AM (edited) When I saw your picture, I had to do a double-take. It looked so familiar. Seems Ford is buying from AmazingE (or they're both buying from the same place.) Take a look: Funny thing is that the AmazingE is only 240V with a NEMA14-30 plug. The Ford version is 120V. The good news is that the AmazingE says it is made in Warren, Ohio using Clipper Creek technology, so no cheap imported junk. Edited May 7, 2019 at 04:38 AM by jsamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgolman Posted May 8, 2019 at 02:44 AM Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2019 at 02:44 AM Hey 68mustangjim, does that fit in the slot under the load floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 9, 2019 at 07:52 PM Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 at 07:52 PM Here is a picture just before I put in the trunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 9, 2019 at 07:55 PM Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 at 07:55 PM When I saw your picture, I had to do a double-take. It looked so familiar. Seems Ford is buying from AmazingE (or they're both buying from the same place.) Take a look: Funny thing is that the AmazingE is only 240V with a NEMA14-30 plug. The Ford version is 120V. The good news is that the AmazingE says it is made in Warren, Ohio using Clipper Creek technology, so no cheap imported junk. https://ideafab.shop/products/level-2-upgrade-adapter-220-240v-for-ford-c-max-fusion-energi-new-style-only?variant=22321361682480&utm_campaign=gs-2019-03-04&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign They sale a1,6,15,,20 foot cable with different nema ends the imply the charger will take 220v I believe Ford is just be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted May 9, 2019 at 09:39 PM Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 at 09:39 PM https://ideafab.shop/products/level-2-upgrade-adapter-220-240v-for-ford-c-max-fusion-energi-new-style-only?variant=22321361682480&utm_campaign=gs-2019-03-04&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign They sale a1,6,15,,20 foot cable with different nema ends the imply the charger will take 220v I believe Ford is just be careful. Interesting, but I thought it was illegal to make an adapter that would accept 240V input and output it to a NEMA 5 socket. Anyone could plug a 120V appliance to it and fry it (or themselves). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 9, 2019 at 09:41 PM Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 at 09:41 PM Hey 68mustangjim, does that fit in the slot under the load floor? Well I had to look as is maybe, the new black handle charge filler neck in place should with my orange cable manager eh! Could trim a 1/2 off both end it would fit better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 9, 2019 at 09:46 PM Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 at 09:46 PM Here are 2 picture with ruler to gauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 9, 2019 at 09:50 PM Report Share Posted May 9, 2019 at 09:50 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 10, 2019 at 12:35 AM Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 at 12:35 AM Interesting, but I thought it was illegal to make an adapter that would accept 240V input and output it to a NEMA 5 socket. Anyone could plug a 120V appliance to it and fry it (or themselves). They do put a sticker on the normal end warning but........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 10, 2019 at 02:50 AM Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 at 02:50 AM When I saw your picture, I had to do a double-take. It looked so familiar. Seems Ford is buying from AmazingE (or they're both buying from the same place.) Take a look: Funny thing is that the AmazingE is only 240V with a NEMA14-30 plug. The Ford version is 120V. The good news is that the AmazingE says it is made in Warren, Ohio using Clipper Creek technology, so no cheap imported junk. Really interesting they do not sell the supply 220v cable by it self and they only sell a 220v version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted May 10, 2019 at 04:40 AM Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 at 04:40 AM Really interesting they do not sell the supply 220v cable by it self and they only sell a 220v version. That fact plus your above link where they guy sells converter cables tells me that the new Ford one IS a rebranded AmazingE just with a 5-15 plug on it. If you were to put a 240V plug on it, I'd bet it would function just like the 240V version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 10, 2019 at 07:59 PM Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 at 07:59 PM Jsamp Thats what the guy with the cables is saying however watch this you true video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydFKV3zJMzA Ford does have thermal protection are there 110v version at 3:21 in the video he point this out. but does indicate there is nothing in the unit to stop you from using 110v on the 220v unit. I may build that cable this weekend and try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted May 11, 2019 at 03:55 AM Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 at 03:55 AM I realize that's what he was doing, I was merely concerned with the fact that he was selling such an item that violates the electric code. The question for us is: will our 120V version work on 240V. When you do your test, let us know. I get my new recall replacement unit on Monday, so I'll open it up to see if/how it differs from the AmazingE one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 12, 2019 at 06:40 AM Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 at 06:40 AM Update built my own table less than $55.20 plugged it in it works fine. Vehicle has been charging for about an hour using a laser temperature device I checked the main connectors going into the actual charger they were between 77 to 78 degrees and the body of the charger vary abit between 89 to 96 degrees current temperature here at 11:40 in Arizona was 77 degrees hope this helps watch that video when the gentleman opens up the normal version of The Amazing e charger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted May 16, 2019 at 05:48 AM Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 05:48 AM So I got my new EVSE Monday. First warning was that the service paperwork listed it as "GFCI integrate". I get it home, plug it in, and get a fault light. Says it does not have a proper ground (Grrrrr). So I spend a day and a half pulling sheetrock off the wall to put a ground in on the outlet (old house, knob and tube wiring). So now it is working. I also opened up the EVSE unit to compare it to the above linked AmazingE Youtube review and it is nearly identical. My PCB says Ver 4.0 where his is 5.1, but everything looks the same. I'll have to compare pic-by-pic to see if I can notice the difference. The one thing I did see is that the 120V plug does have the extra wires that go to the Therm1 and Therm2 holes on the PCB which I understand is why this whole recall was needed in the first place. With 68MustangJim's confirmation that it works on 240V I just might make myself an adapter as well for that odd time when you have 240V available to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68mustangjim Posted May 16, 2019 at 05:24 PM Report Share Posted May 16, 2019 at 05:24 PM I did build one with dryer and try and it does work. The thermal protection should not be an issue just don't cut original plug. The other video confirms that in the none ford version the 4th pin Interestingly, the ONLY difference between the NEMA 14-30 and NEMA 14-50 is the shape of the neutral blade. 240V EVSEs typically do NOT use the neutral, and in the instruction manuals of this one it’s specifically stated that the neutral is NOT used. Because of that, a person could actually CUT OFF the neutral pin and then have a plug compatible with both 14-30 and 14-50 outlets! I made mine with dryer cable 10-30 you can also use 14-30 14-50 plug but Amazing will only provide 16 amp at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fgolman Posted May 18, 2019 at 11:04 PM Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2019 at 11:04 PM 68mustangjim, Did you have any success with yours, even after removing some of the ends? I mean, I couldn't get it so everything was flush with the deck partly due to the SAE connection end that's a bit higher than it's own pocket. Luckily they're cheap and I don't mind that one (of three) is now sitting in recycling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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