cremefrasier Posted October 21, 2017 at 03:22 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 at 03:22 PM Obviously everyone’s driving habits and driving conditions are different, I’m in SoCal two miles from the beach and lately I’ve been getting 29 Miles a charge. Curious to hear others Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted October 21, 2017 at 04:19 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 at 04:19 PM Spring and fall, no heat or air conditioning, 22 miles.Summer with air conditioning, 19 miles.Winter with heat, 10 miles. Gkinla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkinla Posted October 21, 2017 at 04:52 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 at 04:52 PM (edited) I’ve gotten 25 EV Miles. I don’t remember when this was, I live in SoCal, so the weather is very mild in the Fall, Winter, Spring. No heat or AC probably. Click on link. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/gkinla/Ruby%20Mileage%20and%20other%20stuff/IMG_6379.jpg Edited November 9, 2017 at 05:16 PM by Gkinla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj2me Posted October 22, 2017 at 02:23 AM Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 at 02:23 AM 26 in my only non-stop test, without A/C on.28 predicted on the dash for a long stretch this summer, coming down a bit now as it's getting cooler and with the island speed limit changing from 35 to 45 with the end of summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzicman61 Posted October 22, 2017 at 03:56 PM Report Share Posted October 22, 2017 at 03:56 PM I've seen 32 on the dash. But with the regen braking I think I actually got about 34. Typically though I'm around 27. As winter approaches I expect that to decline significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredmrbill Posted November 6, 2017 at 04:26 PM Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 at 04:26 PM I tried an all electric trip my first weekend. We got 22.5 miles before it switched over to gas. Very pleased since a lot of our trips are short runs to the stores etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdginmo Posted November 23, 2017 at 03:17 AM Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 at 03:17 AM (edited) In mild weather with conservative driving and no HVAC I've been able to achieve 32 miles. Usually it's 26 miles or less. Edited November 23, 2017 at 03:18 AM by bdginmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkinla Posted November 24, 2017 at 01:56 AM Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 at 01:56 AM This is the most miles per charge I’ve gotten, ever. I don’t really think this is a good indicator of miles in the battery. I think this should be measured in kWh available. It’s how you use the available kWh is what gives the most miles per charge. Running on the FWY at 65 mph will eat up the available charge in 10 to 15 miles. Then you think this is a faulty battery because the manual says 21 miles in EV. This may be true if crusing at 35 mph, no heater, no AC, no lights. So take the miles on a single charge as an estimate only and not count on it as gospel. I aggressively manage my HVB by using the EVNow and EVLater as needed. EVNow in the city, EVLater on the FWY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidoo Posted November 25, 2017 at 07:01 PM Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 at 07:01 PM If you can see the attachment, my mileage indicator said I had 31 miles when I turned my 2017 Energi on this morning after charging during the night. I live in Phoenix and now that it has cooled off some, my mileage has gone up again. So this morning, I had some errands to run and decided to check exactly how many miles I got before the engine would have to come on. I made 5 stops and wrote down the mileage at each stop and the kWh used. I have had the car a year on December 15th, so I don't know how much battery degradation I've had. The summers are pretty rough here and I was worried about the affect the heat would have on the battery. I still charged it every day as usual, even during the summer. Some days I only got 18 to 20 miles from a charge, but now that it is cooler, I can get 30 or more with no A/C. So, today, after running my errands I still had 2 miles left on the EV guage. I just kept driving around my neighborhood until it went to zero, then right as I was pulling in the garage the zero went off and it want to what I call the hybrid battery, which usually means I can drive another half mile or so. The engine didn't start at all on all the trips. This was during the morning with the temperature in the 70s, on all flat roads, going no more than 45 mph. I had the windows open and the stereo blasting though (not sure how much power that uses). The results were.....31.9 miles driven and 5.1 kWh used. Now, I know the battery is supposed to hold 7.6 kWh, and I believe there is 1.5 kWh or more set aside for the hybrid battery, and probably some safety built in that you can't see so that it never really goes completely to a dead zero charge. Still, going over 31 miles, I thought I would use more than 5.1 kWh. I don't know if this means my battery pack has degraded or not. I seem to remember reading on another forum or a different post on this forum that you won't ever get more than 5.5 kWh out of it no matter what due to the reserve for hybrid and not letting it get all the way to stone cold dead. Gkinla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkinla Posted November 26, 2017 at 12:22 AM Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 at 12:22 AM (edited) IMG_20171125_085422.jpg If you can see the attachment, my mileage indicator said I had 31 miles when I turned my 2017 Energi on this morning after charging during the night. I live in Phoenix and now that it has cooled off some, my mileage has gone up again. So this morning, I had some errands to run and decided to check exactly how many miles I got before the engine would have to come on. I made 5 stops and wrote down the mileage at each stop and the kWh used. I have had the car a year on December 15th, so I don't know how much battery degradation I've had. The summers are pretty rough here and I was worried about the affect the heat would have on the battery. I still charged it every day as usual, even during the summer. Some days I only got 18 to 20 miles from a charge, but now that it is cooler, I can get 30 or more with no A/C. So, today, after running my errands I still had 2 miles left on the EV guage. I just kept driving around my neighborhood until it went to zero, then right as I was pulling in the garage the zero went off and it want to what I call the hybrid battery, which usually means I can drive another half mile or so. The engine didn't start at all on all the trips. This was during the morning with the temperature in the 70s, on all flat roads, going no more than 45 mph. I had the windows open and the stereo blasting though (not sure how much power that uses). The results were.....31.9 miles driven and 5.1 kWh used. Now, I know the battery is supposed to hold 7.6 kWh, and I believe there is 1.5 kWh or more set aside for the hybrid battery, and probably some safety built in that you can't see so that it never really goes completely to a dead zero charge. Still, going over 31 miles, I thought I would use more than 5.1 kWh. I don't know if this means my battery pack has degraded or not. I seem to remember reading on another forum or a different post on this forum that you won't ever get more than 5.5 kWh out of it no matter what due to the reserve for hybrid and not letting it get all the way to stone cold dead. Davidoo, thanks for posting this. Just as I’ve thought, mild temps, mild speeds, no A/C or heat, flat roads, gentle acceleration and you will get what the indicator says. Please post what your mileage indicator says tomorrow or after the next full charge. Edited November 26, 2017 at 12:23 AM by Gkinla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My14Energi Posted November 26, 2017 at 05:59 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 at 05:59 PM (edited) And then the realization sets in that those EV only miles saved you about $1.00 in gas. Its all smoke and mirrors with those estimated EV miles the car gives you. This car isnt about EV miles, its all about your avg MPG's. Your essentially driving a car able to achieve low 40's MPG. The focus on the EV miles and how they are acheived is kinda silly. Just drive it and be happy with it. Edited November 26, 2017 at 05:59 PM by My14Energi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidoo Posted November 26, 2017 at 08:52 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 at 08:52 PM Davidoo, thanks for posting this. Just as I’ve thought, mild temps, mild speeds, no A/C or heat, flat roads, gentle acceleration and you will get what the indicator says. Please post what your mileage indicator says tomorrow or after the next full charge. As you requested, here is the mileage estimate after my hypermiling episode yesterday. It shows 32 EV miles available. Gkinla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davidoo Posted November 26, 2017 at 08:55 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 at 08:55 PM And then the realization sets in that those EV only miles saved you about $1.00 in gas. Its all smoke and mirrors with those estimated EV miles the car gives you. This car isnt about EV miles, its all about your avg MPG's. Your essentially driving a car able to achieve low 40's MPG. The focus on the EV miles and how they are acheived is kinda silly. Just drive it and be happy with it. Yes, you are right. Sometimes I just like to stretch the technology and see how far I can actually go with one charge. But, you are right, I'm not saving that much money, just having fun. So far, this is the best riding and best looking car I've had and I am enjoying it. I get people stopping to talk to me all the time while parking at the grocery store or getting gas (which is a rarity) asking about the car and saying they think it looks good. Gkinla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My14Energi Posted November 26, 2017 at 10:34 PM Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 at 10:34 PM I have gotten compliments which always feels odd, i mean it is just a Ford. But the big difference is you get low 40's MPG in a well equiped nice car. I had a co-worker brag about how his Nissan Versa got 40mpg, but the car was shit, crank windows, shit seats and the doors felt like i could literally kick my way thru them. So yes, there are cars that get better mileage than our Energi, but they are crap cars. Whenever i try to explain my Energi i dont focus on those 18-21 EV miles because to the majority of people thats a joke. I try to focus on the overall gas mpg's. Davidoo and Gkinla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkinla Posted November 27, 2017 at 05:33 AM Report Share Posted November 27, 2017 at 05:33 AM (edited) I have gotten compliments which always feels odd, i mean it is just a Ford. But the big difference is you get low 40's MPG in a well equiped nice car.jI get compliments all the time, also. Here is a photo of my former 2013 FFH next to an Aston Martin. I think the Fusion holds its own. My new 2016 FFE is the same color. Two Aston Martins on the same day. Edited November 27, 2017 at 05:38 AM by Gkinla Davidoo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugzuki Posted November 29, 2017 at 07:30 PM Report Share Posted November 29, 2017 at 07:30 PM It is amazing that it takes more energi to heat the car than it does to drive. I understand that on a cold day they batteries have to be heated and on hot day cooled. But, Still why does it go from 30 mpc down to 10? Out here in Seattle we have hills everywhere. The best I have done on the freeway in rush hour is about 19 miles on a charge. I usually have to turn the defroster on and off during a drive to keep the windows clear of moisture. With rain almost every day the windows like to fog up. There is no setting to just have the vent blow on the windshield. If you turn on to front defrost it sucks the power down even with it set to the lowest temperature setting. We have a lot of hydroelectric power up here, so a kilowatt hour of electricity costs about 10 cents. The 5KWHs it takes me to get to work is about 50 cents. A gallon of gas for the trip in the Escape or GTO is about 3 bucks. It isn't always just about the hybrid and getting 40 miles per gallon. It is sometimes about going 900 miles on a tank of gas instead of 300. It would be really nice if it didn't take so much power to stay warn and keep the window clear. I don't have my pictures online somewhere so I can't link to them. Not sure why I can't attach a picture to the post.This morning I drove a distance of 19.3 miles. 16.6 EV Miles, energy used was 241.0 MPG / 5.2kWHs. My trip meter for this fill-up of Gasoline says: 91.0 MPG, 731.9/531.3 EV mi. I have just under 3/8s of a tank of gas left. Doing the math: 731.9/91.0 = 8.0429 gallons of Gasoline. 731.9-531.3 = 200.6 miles on gasoline. 200.6/8.0429 = 24.94 miles per gallon of gasoline for those none EV miles. 25 MPG is not actually that good. So, for me the EV miles is a BIG part of owning the Energi instead of the Hybrid. We dumped the Focus Electric for the Energi because of the option to go farther than 70 miles in a day if needed. But, for my commute to work it would be nice if I could make it every day on just electric. I can charge at work, so I would be able to make it home on electric too. In the Focus EV it took between 5 and 7 KWH in varying weather conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj2me Posted November 30, 2017 at 12:41 AM Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 at 12:41 AM My trip meter for this fill-up of Gasoline says: 91.0 MPG, 731.9/531.3 EV mi. I have just under 3/8s of a tank of gas left. Doing the math: 731.9/91.0 = 8.0429 gallons of Gasoline. 731.9-531.3 = 200.6 miles on gasoline. 200.6/8.0429 = 24.94 miles per gallon of gasoline for those none EV miles. 25 MPG is not actually that good. So, for me the EV miles is a BIG part of owning the Energi instead of the Hybrid. I don't know how the 2015 reports on its tripmeter, but on the 2017 I see EV miles and kWh. The EV miles reports regen miles too. For example, on my last full gas tank-to-full gas tank trip I tried to stay in EV-Later (hybrid mode) always, never plugged in, battery gauge stayed virtually the same all trip. The trip meter showed:418.5 miles44 mpg143.6 EV <--- 143.5 miles contributed by regen0.4 kWh <--- comprised 0.3 kWh of seat heater use and a scant 0.1 kWh (equivalent to 0.1 miles) of plug-in powered driving Yes, you're getting ~25 mpg from the Atkinson engine, but only if you disregard regen miles, which no one would do. The Energi gets equivalently high mpg as the Hybrid if you never plug in, as you can see from my 44 mpg. jsamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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