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I assume Ford won't have any problem "loading" a rail car right now.  So a direct answer would be yes, they would have to fill the rail first.

Thank you jberger, in retrospect, it was kind of a silly question. I understand now that they can load ANY model car on a rail, with my car, to fill a rail car going to Phoenix; like other Fusion Energi's, Fusion SE's, any Fusion or MKZ's. To boot, my salesman said all the cars coming out of Hermosillo go to Phoenix...and I assume he is right about that.

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To boot, my salesman said all the cars coming out of Hermosillo go to Phoenix...and I assume he is right about that.

 

A few months ago, a user posted his Vehicle Visibility Report that his dealer provided to him (I saved a copy to my PC), it showed the checkpoints as the rail car passed, and here are some of the locations that it hit along the way (I think his car was going to Ohio, IIRC):

 

Nogalez, AZ / Tucson, AZ / Lordsburg, NM / Strauss, NM / Vaughn, NM / Dalhart, TX / Bucklin, KS / Pratt, KS / Herrington, KS / Topeka, KS / Ft Madison, IA / GL04, IL / Yarcenter, IL

 

That last location was the last point reported as the car was still in transit... don't know if all rail cars headed to the same region follow this same route, but maybe your salesman mean to say that all cars coming from Hermosillo go to Tucson and then split out from there?  That particular route noted above headed east from Tuscon and hit Lordsburg and Strauss NM, eastward parallel with I-10.

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A few months ago, a user posted his Vehicle Visibility Report that his dealer provided to him (I saved a copy to my PC), it showed the checkpoints as the rail car passed, and here are some of the locations that it hit along the way (I think his car was going to Ohio, IIRC):

 

Nogalez, AZ / Tucson, AZ / Lordsburg, NM / Strauss, NM / Vaughn, NM / Dalhart, TX / Bucklin, KS / Pratt, KS / Herrington, KS / Topeka, KS / Ft Madison, IA / GL04, IL / Yarcenter, IL

 

That last location was the last point reported as the car was still in transit... don't know if all rail cars headed to the same region follow this same route, but maybe your salesman mean to say that all cars coming from Hermosillo go to Tucson and then split out from there?  That particular route noted above headed east from Tuscon and hit Lordsburg and Strauss NM, eastward parallel with I-10.

Hmmm, that route is a little confusing in that there is no rail yard in Tucson...that I am aware of. Could it be that they put all the cars going east of Tucson behind an engine, or two, thereby bypassing the rail yard in Phoenix? I'm just guessing, of course.

 

No rail yard in Tucson is why my car must go to Phoenix first and then trucked back here. I just went to Phoenix this past weekend and noted numerous car haulers going both ways. No Fords though.

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Hmmm, that route is a little confusing in that there is no rail yard in Tucson...that I am aware of. Could it be that they put all the cars going east of Tucson behind an engine, or two, thereby bypassing the rail yard in Phoenix? I'm just guessing, of course.

 

Those locations don't necessarily mean there's a rail yard at that point (though there could be...people who are really inquisitive can launch google earth and follow along the tracks if desired), in some cases it may just be an RFID pickup and the tags pass by and get updated of the pass-through. 

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Those locations don't necessarily mean there's a rail yard at that point (though there could be...people who are really inquisitive can launch google earth and follow along the tracks if desired), in some cases it may just be an RFID pickup and the tags pass by and get updated of the pass-through. 

Yes, of course. But what I am saying is they would not put a rail car full of autos going to Detroit; and one full of autos going to Chicago; and one full of cars going to Los Angeles; and one full of autos going to Dayton, Ohio together without having some way of separating the cars and sending them off in different directions at some point...like Phoenix. The RFID system will not do that.

 

The only reason I don't think the rail car you showed in your example didn't get to Phoenix is because it doesn't include the city in its route. So one of two things should be true. Either the rail car went to Phoenix and it just doesn't show in the route record or it went to Ohio via Tucson, never reaching Phoenix.

 

A third way for the rail car in our example to get to Ohio via Tucson is for the rail car to be split out of a north bound train in Tucson and I just don't see any place here for that to happen.

 

My salesman, by the way, has told me several times during our conversations about delivery that my car will go to Phoenix first and then back to Tucson.

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Hello,

How can I check on my vehicle myself? I just dont want to be a bother to anyone, plus I can check it repeatedly as as often as I like.  Thanks

 

Can't help on checking, but I am tracking the ones I know about (the information comes from forums and you) so you can compare against others in the same boat.

 

See https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4hPmV6eq_1HVkJmbFlXdVhFS3c/edit?usp=sharing

 

PS: You can send a note to me to update/correct or leave a comment, also if you want to be removed from the list, let me know.

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Yes, of course. But what I am saying is they would not put a rail car full of autos going to Detroit; and one full of autos going to Chicago; and one full of cars going to Los Angeles; and one full of autos going to Dayton, Ohio together without having some way of separating the cars and sending them off in different directions at some point...like Phoenix. The RFID system will not do that.

 

The only reason I don't think the rail car you showed in your example didn't get to Phoenix is because it doesn't include the city in its route. So one of two things should be true. Either the rail car went to Phoenix and it just doesn't show in the route record or it went to Ohio via Tucson, never reaching Phoenix.

 

A third way for the rail car in our example to get to Ohio via Tucson is for the rail car to be split out of a north bound train in Tucson and I just don't see any place here for that to happen.

 

My salesman, by the way, has told me several times during our conversations about delivery that my car will go to Phoenix first and then back to Tucson.

 

OK I think I see what you are saying - my 'guess' (meaning that I am a forum user, not in the rail business) is that they will load one of more rail cars with vehicles headed to the same endpoint (trucking terminal in city x) or do that as best as they can to aggregate as much as possible, and those get switched out at various major terminals in the country to be joined with other trains.  This is probably why you'll see a user tracking their rail car and then all of a sudden it sits near Chicago for 3 days without moving, my guess is that the rail car is sitting there at conjunction junction and in the process of being hooked with a train headed east (let's say to PA) while another dozen rail cars from that original train were hooked onto a different train the previous day headed north (let's say to MI). 

 

As far all traffic headed to Phoenix, maybe that's something they do for everything coming into that region of AZ and they get trucked from there?  From the below map it looks like the routing I noted in the earlier post about heading to Tucson and then going east from there (and heading north at El Paso and then going through Dalhart TX) is probably a common one though it doesn't look like Phoenix is in the mix... I guess they gotta have a switching place around Nogales/Tucson/etc somewhere.

 

http://www.up.com/aboutup/usguide/index.htm

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OK I think I see what you are saying - my 'guess' (meaning that I am a forum user, not in the rail business) is that they will load one of more rail cars with vehicles headed to the same endpoint (trucking terminal in city x) or do that as best as they can to aggregate as much as possible, and those get switched out at various major terminals in the country to be joined with other trains.  This is probably why you'll see a user tracking their rail car and then all of a sudden it sits near Chicago for 3 days without moving, my guess is that the rail car is sitting there at conjunction junction and in the process of being hooked with a train headed east (let's say to PA) while another dozen rail cars from that original train were hooked onto a different train the previous day headed north (let's say to MI). 

 

As far all traffic headed to Phoenix, maybe that's something they do for everything coming into that region of AZ and they get trucked from there?  From the below map it looks like the routing I noted in the earlier post about heading to Tucson and then going east from there (and heading north at El Paso and then going through Dalhart TX) is probably a common one though it doesn't look like Phoenix is in the mix... I guess they gotta have a switching place around Nogales/Tucson/etc somewhere.

 

http://www.up.com/aboutup/usguide/index.htm

I used google earth last night but missed what I was looking for. I used it again this morning and found a pretty good sized switching yard close to the Tucson Airport. So the railroad apparently can and will split rail cars up in Tucson for different destinations, that come out of Mexico through Nogales. I stand corrected.

 

I have also had that unpleasant experience of waiting at a rail crossing, all the way from Tucson to Nogales, while a locomotive goes back and forth across the intersection for what seems an eternity. Something that almost always happens when I am late for an appointment. Knowing, now, that there is a switching yard in Tucson makes that activity even more irritating.

 

Now your route example makes perfect sense.

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