pluggedin Posted January 1, 2013 at 04:46 PM Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 at 04:46 PM This article was taken from the December 30, 2012 USA Today. In case you missed it. http://www.usatoday.com/story/driveon/2012/12/28/fusion-energi-plug-in/1796741/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckJ Posted January 2, 2013 at 01:59 AM Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 at 01:59 AM This article was taken from the December 30, 2012 USA Today. In case you missed it. http://www.usatoday.com/story/driveon/2012/12/28/fusion-energi-plug-in/1796741/It really bothers me that people compare the cheapest version of a car with the highest tech hybrid / plug-in. Here USA Today has the nerve to compare the cheapest Fusion with the Energi which has many more features standard. They never seem to mention that although hybrids do cost more they provide more than better gas mileage; smoothness and quietness for just a couple. ChuckJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted January 2, 2013 at 05:48 PM Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 at 05:48 PM Chris is a pretty good writer too. :headscratch: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechOps Posted January 14, 2013 at 08:24 PM Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 at 08:24 PM It really bothers me that people compare the cheapest version of a car with the highest tech hybrid / plug-in. Here USA Today has the nerve to compare the cheapest Fusion with the Energi which has many more features standard. They never seem to mention that although hybrids do cost more they provide more than better gas mileage; smoothness and quietness for just a couple. ChuckJ Why? It's the same car with a different powertrain (and features like an electric AC and heater, bigger battery, etc.) But the model is still the same. Why not compare the different options and note that it's almost twice as expensive to buy a plug-in as a base model NA engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Energized Posted January 15, 2013 at 04:29 AM Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 at 04:29 AM (edited) It really bothers me that people compare the cheapest version of a car with the highest tech hybrid / plug-in. Here USA Today has the nerve to compare the cheapest Fusion with the Energi which has many more features standard. They never seem to mention that although hybrids do cost more they provide more than better gas mileage; smoothness and quietness for just a couple. ChuckJThey should compare vehicles with a similar level of options, otherwise its apples to oranges and gives a false impression of the true cost differential. It wouldn't make sense to compare the cost of a stripped model with no options, with a top of line model with all the options. This is especially true when you start adding high cost items like NAV, adaptive cruise control and moonroofs . It would be like complaining that a Shelby GT500 is more than twice the cost of a stripped, base V6 Mustang. Edited January 15, 2013 at 04:32 AM by Energized Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckJ Posted January 15, 2013 at 10:56 PM Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 at 10:56 PM They should compare vehicles with a similar level of options, otherwise its apples to oranges and gives a false impression of the true cost differential. It wouldn't make sense to compare the cost of a stripped model with no options, with a top of line model with all the options. This is especially true when you start adding high cost items like NAV, adaptive cruise control and moonroofs . It would be like complaining that a Shelby GT500 is more than twice the cost of a stripped, base V6 Mustang.And you get a better trade-in. ChuckJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted January 16, 2013 at 09:49 PM Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 at 09:49 PM It really bothers me that people compare the cheapest version of a car with the highest tech hybrid / plug-in. Here USA Today has the nerve to compare the cheapest Fusion with the Energi which has many more features standard. They never seem to mention that although hybrids do cost more they provide more than better gas mileage; smoothness and quietness for just a couple. ChuckJ There are valid reasons for doing such a comparison. It is largely going to depend on the buyer as to whether this applies to them or not. For a generally low end buyer, they would do a comparison based on what they were going to buy. If they were going to buy a S or SE with minimal options, that is what they are going to compare to. They might look at a Hybrid or Plug-in to see if in the long term it might save them money (say, total cost of ownership after 5 years). If the savings in fuel of the Hybrid do not make up for the added cost, it does not make financial sense to them to buy the car, regardless of how many 'options' are included in the higher price of the Hybrid. In my case, the electronic "techno wizard gadgetry" of all the options that the Energi includes holds no value to me. If I were to buy an Energi, it would be for the improved mileage and lower emissions. None of the 'freebies' that come in the price are worth anything to me because I would never put them on a standard Fusion if I were to buy one. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelS Posted January 17, 2013 at 04:09 AM Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 at 04:09 AM (edited) It really bothers me that people compare the cheapest version of a car with the highest tech hybrid / plug-in. Here USA Today has the nerve to compare the cheapest Fusion with the Energi which has many more features standard. They never seem to mention that although hybrids do cost more they provide more than better gas mileage; smoothness and quietness for just a couple. ChuckJI agree with you ChuckJ. It's like all of the 10k of extra options (other than the plug-in components) should be absolutely free. And don't even mention the fed and state rebates, either. The 3500-7000k tax rebate has no bearing. It makes no sense, unless you have an agenda against plug-ins in the first place. Edited January 17, 2013 at 04:16 AM by DelS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Energized Posted January 17, 2013 at 04:21 AM Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 at 04:21 AM I agree with you ChuckJ. It's like all of the 10k of extra options (other than the plug-in components) should be absolutely free. And don't even mention the fed and state rebates, either. The 3500-7000k tax rebate has no bearing. It makes no sense, unless you have an agenda against plug-ins in the first place. Yea, I agree that some people just have an agenda against plug-ins and choose to ignore such basic things as you mentioned. DelS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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