stevedebi Posted July 31, 2015 at 09:53 PM Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 at 09:53 PM Guys, That's not a depleted battery, take a closer look. That's the HVB battery and its almost full in his picture. The depleted battery icon is different. -=>Raja.Raja,He has a 2013, the HVB battery has a percentage on it (although maybe it can be dropped in the 2013 via the settings menu; so far as I know it can't be changed in the 2014 and they removed the text in 2015). That is what I meant when I said it is the hybrid battery. That battery display is what I get when the HVB depletes - the text is removed and the "normal" battery comes up. Whatever battery it is, yes, it is full. But that has a vastly different meaning for HVB and hybrid battery displays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedebi Posted July 31, 2015 at 09:55 PM Report Share Posted July 31, 2015 at 09:55 PM so it happen again yesterday after the car sat all week at my work garage was using the company car all week car started out in EV now then 5 min into the drive this happen engine turned out and display said routine maintenance Back on point, it sounds like there is some problem with your battery system. I'd take it in to the dealer and have them check it. The hybrid components have an extended warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridbear Posted August 2, 2015 at 04:26 AM Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 at 04:26 AM I agree with other comments - the driver screen shows a depeleted HVB (small hybrid battery). What is the percentage on the MFT "leaves" display, which shows the HVB %?The picture shows a three-dimensional battery, not the two-dimensional battery that appears when the charge is depleted & you're in hybrid mode. Raja,He has a 2013, the HVB battery has a percentage on it (although maybe it can be dropped in the 2013 via the settings menu; so far as I know it can't be changed in the 2014 and they removed the text in 2015). That is what I meant when I said it is the hybrid battery. That battery display is what I get when the HVB depletes - the text is removed and the "normal" battery comes up. Whatever battery it is, yes, it is full. But that has a vastly different meaning for HVB and hybrid battery displays.The 2013 shows the miles on the three-dimensional battery icon. Once the HVB is depleted & switches to the 2D picture there is no display of miles. The percentage is never shown on the left dash screen. The picture Da0ne posted is a 3D battery. rbort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da0ne Posted August 3, 2015 at 07:31 PM Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 at 07:31 PM thanks will schedule service to check it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedebi Posted August 3, 2015 at 08:29 PM Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 at 08:29 PM The picture shows a three-dimensional battery, not the two-dimensional battery that appears when the charge is depleted & you're in hybrid mode.The 2013 shows the miles on the three-dimensional battery icon. Once the HVB is depleted & switches to the 2D picture there is no display of miles. The percentage is never shown on the left dash screen. The picture Da0ne posted is a 3D battery.Hybrid, I'm just not seeing it, but then I'm using a 2014. I'll have to look at the 3D vs 2d again next time I run down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridbear Posted August 5, 2015 at 12:33 AM Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 at 12:33 AM Hybrid, I'm just not seeing it, but then I'm using a 2014. I'll have to look at the 3D vs 2d again next time I run down.Two-dimensional battery icon Three-dimensional battery icon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da0ne Posted August 5, 2015 at 06:51 PM Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 at 06:51 PM so it happen again yesterday i was waiting for the wife so i left car on with windows down since there was a nice breeze atleast for me it was, after she came back started to complain it was hot so i turn the a/c on temp outside was 84 after 5 min the car changed from EV now to Auto the car had been sitting in the driveway for 2 days now without being moved yesterday, im starting to think it has to do with the temp outside either way the car is going to ford on Sat so we shall see what they say, although i have a funny feeling they will say it was the weather as i was driving around i heard scraping/grinding so i will have them look at this also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedebi Posted August 5, 2015 at 10:04 PM Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 at 10:04 PM Two-dimensional battery icon Three-dimensional battery iconHB,Thanks, that clears it up. On my C-Max it is 3d, but does not have the hash marks in the middle as shown in these pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridbear Posted August 5, 2015 at 10:59 PM Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 at 10:59 PM HB,Thanks, that clears it up. On my C-Max it is 3d, but does not have the hash marks in the middle as shown in these pictures.What hash marks? Do you have pics? My parents' 2013 C-Max Energi is the same as our Fusion Energi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedebi Posted August 6, 2015 at 03:26 PM Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 at 03:26 PM What hash marks? Do you have pics? My parents' 2013 C-Max Energi is the same as our Fusion Energi.Your 3d battery picture has a white grid superimposed on it, sort of like a chain link fence. Mine is a solid blue color. It could be my monitor I suppose, but the 2D is a solid color. Am I the only one who sees it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted August 6, 2015 at 04:17 PM Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 at 04:17 PM Your 3d battery picture has a white grid superimposed on it, sort of like a chain link fence. Mine is a solid blue color. It could be my monitor I suppose, but the 2D is a solid color. Am I the only one who sees it?I also see the grid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzo71 Posted August 6, 2015 at 06:42 PM Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 at 06:42 PM I see it but think its the picture.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryh Posted August 6, 2015 at 08:49 PM Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 at 08:49 PM That is a moire pattern due to poor anti-aliasing of the camera. Hybridbear and lonzo71 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedebi Posted August 6, 2015 at 09:52 PM Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 at 09:52 PM (edited) Here is the one from my 2014 C-Max EDIT: On the original picture, I can see the dots from the LCD on the LHD. Edited August 6, 2015 at 09:53 PM by stevedebi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridbear Posted August 6, 2015 at 10:45 PM Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 at 10:45 PM (edited) That is a moire pattern due to poor anti-aliasing of the camera. Thanks, Larry, for the excellent explanation of the source of the confusion. I took the picture in a dark garage with the dash lights on relatively dimly (I keep it dimmed to the darkest setting with headlights on) and thus the iPhone camera has the moiré pattern.Photographs of a TV screen taken with a digital camera often exhibit moiré patterns. Since both the TV screen and the digital camera use a scanning technique to produce or to capture pictures with horizontal scan lines, the conflicting sets of lines cause the moiré patterns. To avoid the effect, the digital camera can be aimed at an angle of 30 degrees to the TV screen.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moir%C3%A9_patternMy phone was almost parallel to the LCD dash screen and thus the moiré pattern is visible. Edited August 6, 2015 at 10:46 PM by Hybridbear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridbear Posted August 6, 2015 at 11:06 PM Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 at 11:06 PM (edited) Today it happened to me again, exactly like before & like others have posted. Before I started driving I had remote started the car & let the AC run for almost 30 minutes. The outside temp was about 74 F with rain & the AC for remote starting was set to 65 F. The HVB temp was about 76 F. The car showed the PHEV state was 1 - Charge Depleting Mode. After driving about 1.0 miles the discharge limit dropped from 59 kW to virtually 0 kW & the ICE turned on (I didn't see the discharge limit on my tablet screen but I was driving at less than 1 bar of power demand on the Empower screen when the ICE turned on). I immediately pulled over to the side of the road (I was doing about 20 MPH on a side street) and turned off the car. When I restarted it the PHEV state was still 1, but now it allowed me to change it to EV Now (4 - Locked Electric Mode). I had about 2.7 kWh of ETE in the HVB when this happened. Edited August 6, 2015 at 11:08 PM by Hybridbear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevedebi Posted August 7, 2015 at 03:05 PM Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 at 03:05 PM Today it happened to me again, exactly like before & like others have posted. Before I started driving I had remote started the car & let the AC run for almost 30 minutes. The outside temp was about 74 F with rain & the AC for remote starting was set to 65 F. The HVB temp was about 76 F. The car showed the PHEV state was 1 - Charge Depleting Mode. After driving about 1.0 miles the discharge limit dropped from 59 kW to virtually 0 kW & the ICE turned on (I didn't see the discharge limit on my tablet screen but I was driving at less than 1 bar of power demand on the Empower screen when the ICE turned on). I immediately pulled over to the side of the road (I was doing about 20 MPH on a side street) and turned off the car. When I restarted it the PHEV state was still 1, but now it allowed me to change it to EV Now (4 - Locked Electric Mode). I had about 2.7 kWh of ETE in the HVB when this happened.HB,Now THATS what my 3d battery looks like. Someone needs to tell Ford about this one, there is a bug in the control software. On a side note, I didn't realize the dash was that different from the C-Max. My headlight icon is under the speedometer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da0ne Posted August 10, 2015 at 12:50 PM Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 at 12:50 PM (edited) so i got the car back and as i figured they couldnt replicate so they dont know whats wrong the tech went on to say that maybe the battery was to low and that why it wouldnt stay in EV now.....so the argument beings after that, i told him that doesnt make sense and neither do you as i can still drive on the battery as i had 15 ETE just on auto i wanted to switch to EV Later as i was entering the highway and didnt want to use the battery, needless say i wont be going back to them since they were being aholes about some of the mods i had done to the car Edited August 10, 2015 at 12:51 PM by Da0ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzo71 Posted August 10, 2015 at 03:18 PM Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 at 03:18 PM Mods? like what? Just wondering since you mentioned it. For those that are having this problem; were you switching modes before this happened and how fast were you hitting the button? When it happened to me, I believe I was switching kind of fast and maybe that has something to do with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da0ne Posted August 10, 2015 at 04:13 PM Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 at 04:13 PM (edited) Mods? like what? Just wondering since you mentioned it. For those that are having this problem; were you switching modes before this happened and how fast were you hitting the button? When it happened to me, I believe I was switching kind of fast and maybe that has something to do with it... i was stopped at a light about to enter highway also have my calipers painted and they said that the reason im hearing grinding coming from the car Edited August 10, 2015 at 04:38 PM by Da0ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridbear Posted August 10, 2015 at 04:40 PM Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 at 04:40 PM For those that are having this problem; were you switching modes before this happened and how fast were you hitting the button? When it happened to me, I believe I was switching kind of fast and maybe that has something to do with it...I have only had it happen after the car has been remote started for long periods of time. Other times that it is remote started for long periods I don't have this issue. We leave our car in EV Now for months at a time. The last time our car wasn't in EV Now was July 5th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonzo71 Posted August 10, 2015 at 06:37 PM Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 at 06:37 PM Nice, Da0ne, have a pic of the rear? just wondering if you did anything there.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctfusion Posted August 11, 2015 at 11:47 AM Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 at 11:47 AM For those that are having this problem; were you switching modes before this happened and how fast were you hitting the button? When it happened to me, I believe I was switching kind of fast and maybe that has something to do with it... When it happened to me I was on the highway but in traffic. I had put it in EV Later about 1 1/2 hours prior and hadn't touched it after that. I only noticed it because when it changed to EV Auto my left side display changed to (I think) Empower. That's when I tried to switch back to EV Later and saw that it wouldn't let me until about 15 or so miles later when the HVB ran out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da0ne Posted August 11, 2015 at 01:22 PM Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 at 01:22 PM Nice, Da0ne, have a pic of the rear? just wondering if you did anything there.. thanks not much yet going to get the 3dcarbon rear conversion when i get a chance after vacations are over so funny that after i picked up the car yesterday as i was driving out of the dealers lot tried to switch to EV later and guess what happen only Auto was available, i did a quick u-turn back to the service dept and showed them and they where puzzled and said they will report it to Ford, lets see what happens lonzo71 and Hybridbear 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Posted August 20, 2015 at 01:18 AM Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 at 01:18 AM Any news on this anomaly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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