JoeMonty Posted March 24, 2015 at 09:45 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 09:45 PM Hi, Sorry for newbie question, but we just bought a Fusion Energi. We have a 240v outlet in our garage. It has the Bryant L6-30 configuration (3 inputs spread in a circular configuration). I've attached an image of the input. I have not looked at the charging kit in the trunk yet, my wife has the car, but I'm wondering if this plug type is supported in the charging kit? If not, can anyone recommend the best place to get an adapter or a new cable that will fit this input? Thanks in advance! J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted March 24, 2015 at 09:57 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 09:57 PM The charger in the trunk can only be conected to a standard 120 volt 15 amp outlet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russael Posted March 24, 2015 at 09:59 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 09:59 PM Hello and welcome to the forum and your new ride. The EVSE in the trunk is a 120v unit only. I don't know of any plug-in hybrids that come with a 240 compatible charger. I don't believe the Tesla comes with one either for that matter. You would need to shop for and select a 240v EVSE that has a J1772 connector on it (which is basically all of them, except the Tesla). You have your choice of brand/features or whatever you want. Prices vary. And of course Murphy beats me to it by scant moments. :worship: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMonty Posted March 24, 2015 at 09:59 PM Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 09:59 PM Thanks. I assume this is what I need - http://www.clippercreek.com/store/product/charging-station-lcs-25p-nema-l6-30-2/. Make sense? Since the outlet is 30A and this link is 20A, will it work or will there be a compatability issue? I assume there is a performance and price difference for a 30A device, yes? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:03 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:03 PM The maximum current the car can use at 240 volts is 16 amps. That charger will work fine, it just has more capability than the car can use.. A lower current device can always be connected to a higher current capable outlet. A higher current device can never be connected to a lower current outlet. Hybridbear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openair Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:06 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:06 PM Yes, that should work fine. Think of 30a as the max. Anything that will fit that plug type below that will work. Yes, 30a usually cost more and charge faster. Except the energi will not draw 30a anyway. So unless you're worried about future proofing for charging an all electric vehicle in the future, stick with the 20a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMonty Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM Coolio. Excellent forum, thanks! BTW - will the charger mentioned here cut the charging time in approx 1/2? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeMonty Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:08 PM vs 110, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
openair Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:09 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 10:09 PM Yes, about 2.5 hours vs 7 with the stock charger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdbob Posted March 24, 2015 at 11:06 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 11:06 PM I don't believe the Tesla comes with one either for that matter. The Tesla comes with a "Mobile Connector" that has various adapters for 120V and common 240V outlets. It also has an adapter that will take a J1772 connector so it can be used with non-Tesla charge stations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JATR4 Posted March 24, 2015 at 11:29 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 11:29 PM (edited) "With a single onboard charger plugged into a standard 110-volt outlet, Tesla says you will get 5 miles of range for every hour of charging. From zero to 300 miles would take about 52 hours at that rate. With a single charger connected to a 240-volt outlet, which Tesla recommends, the pace speeds up to 31 miles of range for each hour of charging, and a full 300-mile charge takes less than 9.5 hours." It would take FOREVER to charge a Tesla with 120V. Take a lunch break. "Stop at a Tesla Supercharger station and you can top off the tank with 300 miles of range in just an hour." I have a 240V Clipper Creek and I would probably sell my FFET if I had to go back to the 120V charger. Edited March 24, 2015 at 11:33 PM by JATR4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted March 24, 2015 at 11:48 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 11:48 PM It would take FOREVER to charge a Tesla with 120V. 52 hours would work if you were visiting your relatives for at least 3 days and there were no superchargers in the area. They have a long way to go. I think Texas is still isolated from the rest of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russael Posted March 24, 2015 at 11:57 PM Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 at 11:57 PM The Tesla comes with a "Mobile Connector" that has various adapters for 120V and common 240V outlets. It also has an adapter that will take a J1772 connector so it can be used with non-Tesla charge stations. I stand corrected. Are there any others that are dual voltage that actually come with the car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug0716 Posted March 25, 2015 at 12:41 AM Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 at 12:41 AM It hasn't been mentioned yet but you should *not* be looking at too much larger of a charger. It won't future proof you 30AMP is the maximum,rating, not a constant draw rating. "For continuous loads (on for more than three hours) the limit is 20% lower." which means 24A is the max charger you should buy, for that circuit. As others have mentioned, the Fusion will not use close to that anyway so no worries there, but no point in spending the extra $ on a 30A charger to future proof yourself when it won't accomplish that.http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/maxload.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdbob Posted March 25, 2015 at 01:11 AM Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 at 01:11 AM I stand corrected. Are there any others that are dual voltage that actually come with the car? Not that I know of. There is a dual voltage EVSE available: http://evsolutions.avinc.com/turbocord Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russael Posted March 25, 2015 at 04:00 AM Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 at 04:00 AM Not that I know of. There is a dual voltage EVSE available: http://evsolutions.avinc.com/turbocord I'm aware of that one (and considered buying one simply because it's even smaller than the included EVSE). I was just wondering if there were any other stock chargers that were dual voltage. I'm probably mistaken, but I thought the travel cord for the Tesla was single voltage at one point and you needed the wall EVSE to get 240. Still, for >70k, I'm glad they made an allowance for that! Sheesh. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdbob Posted March 25, 2015 at 05:31 AM Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 at 05:31 AM Someone has modified a stock Tesla Mobile Connector by removing the proprietary Tesla connector and replacing it with a standard J1772 (Type 1) connector. Not a cheap investment but it works because they use the same protocol for AC charging as our cars. Saw it somewhere at http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/forum.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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