C-Max or Fusion Energi ?

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ChuckJ, I am having a hard time understanding what your sales guy told you. I assume by "FFI" you meant the Energi? But it doesn't make sense that the Energi battery comes out to the lip of the trunk opening. First, you'd want to keep the weight over the rear axle. Second, look at this link that pluggedin posted a while back: http://www.evsafetytraining.org/resources/auto-manufacturer-resources/~/media/Files/PDFs/2013%20Fusion%20Hybrid%20%20Fusion%20Energi%20%20MKZ%20Hybrid%20ERG.pdf On page 15 you can clearly see the Energi battery extends higher than the Hybrid battery, but does not extend farther towards the back of the car. So that means the Energi trunk is as high as the Hybrid's but not very deep. Sure wish we could see a picture of the Energi trunk!

rprobst, take a look at the youtube video that Chuckj has in his post above. In that video they show that the 120v charger is recessed in the trunk floor that appears to be between the battery pack (Energi) and the trunk opening, along with what I am going to guess is the mobility (tire) kit. The piece that acts as the trunk floor is removed to expose the 120v charger and that piece appears to come to just below the lip of the trunk. That is what I think I see anyway.

[rprobst]

rprobst, take a look at the youtube video that Chuckj has in his post above. In that video they show that the 120v charger is recessed in the trunk floor that appears to be between the battery pack (Energi) and the trunk opening, along with what I am going to guess is the mobility (tire) kit. The piece that acts as the trunk floor is removed to expose the 120v charger and that piece appears to come to just below the lip of the trunk. That is what I think I see anyway.

 

Yeah, I see what you mean. I couldn't watch the video at work - should have, before I responded to ChuckJ - but glad I saw it now. BTW, did you notice the (non-body-color) shark-fin antenna on the Fusion prototype?

 

So I do see that the trunk floor looks higher than in the Hybrid trunk. But thankfully Ford didn't put the battery back there, for weight distribution. In the C-Max Energi, there is similarly a little storage bin behind the battery.

 

Boy, I'm really impatient to see this thing in person.

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Yeah, I see what you mean. I couldn't watch the video at work - should have, before I responded to ChuckJ - but glad I saw it now. BTW, did you notice the (non-body-color) shark-fin antenna on the Fusion prototype? So I do see that the trunk floor looks higher than in the Hybrid trunk. But thankfully Ford didn't put the battery back there, for weight distribution. In the C-Max Energi, there is similarly a little storage bin behind the battery. Boy, I'm really impatient to see this thing in person.

Yeah, me too. But you are doing better than I am since I have not been able to catch even a Fusion Hybrid on a dealers lot to look at. I saw one about two months ago on a Sunday in Tucson and by the time I got back to look at it, when the dealer was open, it was gone. Haven't seen one since.

 

I did see that shark-fin atnenna and did one similar to that on gas model Titanium Fusion...Tuxedo black in color...what a beauty.

[rprobst]

I've driven a Fusion ICE Titanium, Fusion Hybrid (took 2 tries -- 1st time the dealer had sold the car before I could get there), C-Max Hybrid and C-Max Energi -- which was really impressive. Everything I want to test except for the Fusion Energi.

 

Oh, and I do want to test-drive the Accord Plug-in before I place any order; drove the 2013 Accord ICE and must say that Honda has done a great job -- too bad they put the B-team designers on the Plug-in exterior.

 

The San Jose auto show is this weekend. I will stop by to see if they have a Fusion Energi with the trunk unlocked. It's a smaller show, however, so they may not even have an Energi.

 

[ChuckJ]

ChuckJ, I am having a hard time understanding what your sales guy told you. I assume by "FFI" you meant the Energi? But it doesn't make sense that the Energi battery comes out to the lip of the trunk opening. First, you'd want to keep the weight over the rear axle. Second, look at this link that pluggedin posted a while back: http://www.evsafetytraining.org/resources/auto-manufacturer-resources/~/media/Files/PDFs/2013%20Fusion%20Hybrid%20%20Fusion%20Energi%20%20MKZ%20Hybrid%20ERG.pdf On page 15 you can clearly see the Energi battery extends higher than the Hybrid battery, but does not extend farther towards the back of the car. So that means the Energi trunk is as high as the Hybrid's but not very deep. Sure wish we could see a picture of the Energi trunk!

I tend to agree with your assessment.  I guess we'll just have to wait until someone gets a real picture.

 

ChuckJ

Edited January 11, 2013 at 02:05 AM by ChuckJ

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rprobst, take a look at the youtube video that Chuckj has in his post above. In that video they show that the 120v charger is recessed in the trunk floor that appears to be between the battery pack (Energi) and the trunk opening, along with what I am going to guess is the mobility (tire) kit. The piece that acts as the trunk floor is removed to expose the 120v charger and that piece appears to come to just below the lip of the trunk. That is what I think I see anyway.

 

The numbers leaked out yesterday that the trunk volumes are as follows:

Fusion 16.0 cu ft

Hybrid  12.0 cu ft

Energi    8.2 cu ft

That's a pretty drastic loss, but not surprising when you're trying to fit 7.6kWh worth of battery in there. 

 

  I agree with you rprobst that it looks in the video like they extended the "shelf" in the hybrid all the way to the back of the trunk.  So it is all one depth and extends all they way to the rear seat.  That way they can still have the fold-down rear seat access.  It just means there is not much height in the trunk for large items.  I also don't like the way they are starting to block off the sides of the trunk with little compartments (from Hybrid picture above).