rfruth Posted January 20, 2012 at 01:59 AM Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 at 01:59 AM C-Max or Fusion Energi, that is the question (for me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted January 20, 2012 at 07:17 PM Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 at 07:17 PM C-Max or Fusion Energi, that is the question (for me)Nice to see you over here :) Honestly, the 2013 Fusion is the bomb! :wub: I think it's the C-Max for me because we have three mutts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach81 Posted March 8, 2012 at 02:44 AM Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 at 02:44 AM Really interested in Energi. Doing homework now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdrexler Posted March 9, 2012 at 04:03 AM Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 at 04:03 AM We've been waiting 10 years for a decent replacement for our Honda Civic Hybrid. The Fusion Energi looks like the one. Larger, USA and union made, great mileage, plug-in, and great looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach81 Posted March 9, 2012 at 07:15 PM Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 at 07:15 PM (edited) Agree..for my next new vehicle if I take the plunge.I want it to plug in, have a decent size backseat as my son is BIG, (cross out the Leaf and Volt) and I want it to not "look" like a hybrid (Prius reference in "other guys").... Edited March 9, 2012 at 07:16 PM by coach81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted March 19, 2012 at 06:07 PM Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 at 06:07 PM We've been waiting 10 years for a decent replacement for our Honda Civic Hybrid. The Fusion Energi looks like the one. Larger, USA and union made, great mileage, plug-in, and great looks. It feels good to see Ford's quality jump and people not just taking a look at Ford again, but having confidence in them and driving them. Agree..for my next new vehicle if I take the plunge.I want it to plug in, have a decent size backseat as my son is BIG, (cross out the Leaf and Volt) and I want it to not "look" like a hybrid (Prius reference in "other guys").... Have you also considered the C-Max Energi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdytogo52 Posted March 20, 2012 at 02:07 AM Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 at 02:07 AM For quite sometime i have been on the Chevy Volt forum getting advice and learning the good and the bad about Volt form owners nationwide. I also did my research on the car. As you can see the Volt was for me. We have two 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrids and we are very satisfied with them. Very good gas milage and fill up approxamatly every 3 to 4 weeks. Dispite how much i liked our Fusion Hybrids i wanted more, as in milage and speed so i deciced to trade in my hybrid for a Volt. To make a long story short, I went on a weekend to order my Volt with my downpayment and boy was i excited. Going to get me a Volt. Well things didn't go as smooth as i thought it would. I went to order a car not to try to puchase one that day. You all know how salesmen are, he ordered the car the way i wanted but did not actually send the order in because he would try to sell me one off the lot that someone did not purchase. It was more that my budget could afford, but i like a fool fell into his trap and now i am trying to purchase the car. This was on Veterans Day credit union was close. I had none of my research papers in front of me about my Ford Fusion Hybrid trade in or any other papers that i needed. But again i kept getting deeper and deeper into the sale. After all was said and done the salesman said Do you want to put down the money you brought to order your car for this car. This money will be to held it until he would get all the figures from the Credit Union and draw up the sales papers and i said OK. I left the car lot not feeling at all good, and on the way home just thinking about the decision i made. How stupid of me. When i got home and looked over my papers i found out that i was not at all getting a good trade in on my Fusion as a matter of fact he was just picking up the balance. Was i upset ! I emailed, text and left a message on his voice mail saying forget the salespapers for the time being and tear up the check i need to retreat and start all over again at a later time to get myself and my information together. I was back to square one, and still wanted the car. A couple of days later, guess what? I saw the new 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid and Plug up Energi on the news. What else can i say. I am on the Ford Fusion Hybrid - Plugup Energi Forum. Hello everybody! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach81 Posted March 29, 2012 at 01:29 PM Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 at 01:29 PM For quite sometime i have been on the Chevy Volt forum getting advice and learning the good and the bad about Volt form owners nationwide. I also did my research on the car. As you can see the Volt was for me. We have two 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrids and we are very satisfied with them. Very good gas milage and fill up approxamatly every 3 to 4 weeks. Dispite how much i liked our Fusion Hybrids i wanted more, as in milage and speed so i deciced to trade in my hybrid for a Volt. To make a long story short, I went on a weekend to order my Volt with my downpayment and boy was i excited. Going to get me a Volt. Well things didn't go as smooth as i thought it would. I went to order a car not to try to puchase one that day. You all know how salesmen are, he ordered the car the way i wanted but did not actually send the order in because he would try to sell me one off the lot that someone did not purchase. It was more that my budget could afford, but i like a fool fell into his trap and now i am trying to purchase the car. This was on Veterans Day credit union was close. I had none of my research papers in front of me about my Ford Fusion Hybrid trade in or any other papers that i needed. But again i kept getting deeper and deeper into the sale. After all was said and done the salesman said Do you want to put down the money you brought to order your car for this car. This money will be to held it until he would get all the figures from the Credit Union and draw up the sales papers and i said OK. I left the car lot not feeling at all good, and on the way home just thinking about the decision i made. How stupid of me. When i got home and looked over my papers i found out that i was not at all getting a good trade in on my Fusion as a matter of fact he was just picking up the balance. Was i upset ! I emailed, text and left a message on his voice mail saying forget the salespapers for the time being and tear up the check i need to retreat and start all over again at a later time to get myself and my information together. I was back to square one, and still wanted the car. A couple of days later, guess what? I saw the new 2013 Ford Fusion Hybrid and Plug up Energi on the news. What else can i say. I am on the Ford Fusion Hybrid - Plugup Energi Forum. Hello everybody! Thanks for the story... good for you!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coach81 Posted March 29, 2012 at 01:30 PM Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 at 01:30 PM It feels good to see Ford's quality jump and people not just taking a look at Ford again, but having confidence in them and driving them. Have you also considered the C-Max Energi? C-max looks a bit smaller than the fusion.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted September 19, 2012 at 12:39 AM Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 at 12:39 AM We've been waiting 10 years for a decent replacement for our Honda Civic Hybrid. The Fusion Energi looks like the one. Larger, USA and union made, great mileage, plug-in, and great looks.Sorry for the delayed response. Unfortunately, the Energi and Hybrid models will not be made in USA unless Ford changes things. Those 2 models will be assembled in Mexico. There will be some production of the std Fusion in Michigan, but that is extra capacity to handle overflow orders that Ford is expecting and can't cover in Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugMeIn Posted September 24, 2012 at 04:29 AM Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 at 04:29 AM Sorry for the delayed response. Unfortunately, the Energi and Hybrid models will not be made in USA unless Ford changes things. Those 2 models will be assembled in Mexico. There will be some production of the std Fusion in Michigan, but that is extra capacity to handle overflow orders that Ford is expecting and can't cover in Mexico. At least the money flows back into Ford, which is American owned and they are trying to add more capacity back into U.S. plants. Gotta give them props for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugMeIn Posted September 24, 2012 at 04:31 AM Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 at 04:31 AM I haven't seen the C-Max up front, close and personal, but I have seen the Fusion and it's every bit of gorgeous as they say it is. Superb! I suppose it would depend on the purpose. The Fusion is quite simply a sedan while the C-Max is somewhat or a crossover thingy, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted November 8, 2012 at 08:30 PM Report Share Posted November 8, 2012 at 08:30 PM (edited) C-Max or Fusion Energi, that is the question (for me) Here's what will make the decision for most people: MSRP C-Max Energi = $33,745Fusion Energi = $39,495 ($5750 more) I find the Fusion price puzzling since the std hybrid version of both cars are priced much closer: C-Max Hybrid = $25,995Fusion Hybrid = $27,995 ($2000 more) Edited November 8, 2012 at 08:30 PM by jsamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted November 14, 2012 at 07:42 PM Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 at 07:42 PM Here's what will make the decision for most people: MSRP C-Max Energi = $33,745Fusion Energi = $39,495 ($5750 more) I find the Fusion price puzzling since the std hybrid version of both cars are priced much closer: C-Max Hybrid = $25,995Fusion Hybrid = $27,995 ($2000 more) Strangely odd :huh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjbron Posted November 29, 2012 at 09:38 PM Report Share Posted November 29, 2012 at 09:38 PM (edited) After driving a problematic Focus for the last 4 years for the gas mileage, I look at the C-max vs. Fusion hybrids. They both get the 47 mpg? Then it's time for me to get my more "macho" commuter car B) ... it's gotta be the Fusion. I mean, just look at them next to each other!Now, as for justifying the $9k or whatever for a plug-in... that's a tougher sell. Yes, I want it, but my commute is 50 mi round trip, so I guess having electric-only for 10-15 miles of it would take a looong time to repay. Edited November 29, 2012 at 09:38 PM by tjbron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FusionEnergi Posted December 29, 2012 at 03:52 AM Report Share Posted December 29, 2012 at 03:52 AM I have seen the C-max energi and the cargo space is very limited. Vehicle size is important to consider. The fusion is larger and gives me a safer feeling. So fusion for me!Now if the new Taurus was an energi then I would choose it. Yes, I want to be as efficient as possible, but you cant put a price on your safety. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertlane Posted December 30, 2012 at 02:20 AM Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 at 02:20 AM I have seen the C-max energi and the cargo space is very limited. Vehicle size is important to consider. The fusion is larger and gives me a safer feeling. So fusion for me!Now if the new Taurus was an energi then I would choose it. Yes, I want to be as efficient as possible, but you cant put a price on your safety. A I was thinking about an Escape and Taurus Energi model. I wonder if that will ever happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsamp Posted January 3, 2013 at 08:45 PM Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 at 08:45 PM I was thinking about an Escape and Taurus Energi model. I wonder if that will ever happen? For years Ford was touting the Escape Plug-in that was "in development". They had a whole fleet of them they were using for real world testing and development in conjunction with Edison Electric in Southern California. Then they abandoned the Escape hybrid altogether and brought out the C-Max and Fusion Energi models. I doubt they would go back and re-introduce the Escape as a plug-in. Taurus is just too big and heavy to be very efficient as a plug-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relgel Posted January 8, 2013 at 05:35 PM Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 at 05:35 PM I have seen the C-max energi and the cargo space is very limited. Vehicle size is important to consider. The fusion is larger and gives me a safer feeling. So fusion for me!Now if the new Taurus was an energi then I would choose it. Yes, I want to be as efficient as possible, but you cant put a price on your safety. ARobertlane- Yes, the Cmax Energi has a limited trunk area. I emailed Ford to tell me the size of the Fusion Energi trunk and yesterday they told me that the Fusion Energi trunk size is 8 cubic feet ( i believe that is 1/2 the size of the Cmax trunk). I would have spent the extra money for the Fusion Energi, but the reason i would go with the larger car is for out of town and out of EV range trips....this small trunk eliminates this approach. Fortunately, it is great to have choices in the Ford lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluggedin Posted January 8, 2013 at 08:16 PM Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 at 08:16 PM (edited) Robertlane- Yes, the Cmax Energi has a limited trunk area. I emailed Ford to tell me the size of the Fusion Energi trunk and yesterday they told me that the Fusion Energi trunk size is 8 cubic feet ( i believe that is 1/2 the size of the Cmax trunk). I would have spent the extra money for the Fusion Energi, but the reason i would go with the larger car is for out of town and out of EV range trips....this small trunk eliminates this approach. Fortunately, it is great to have choices in the Ford lineup. 8 cubic feet is about enough room for an overnight bag! I'm shocked, if that is right. It would have been nice had they mentioned whether that allowed for a pass through or not. If you still have that email address, Relgel, would you mind asking that question? Edited January 8, 2013 at 08:16 PM by pluggedin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckJ Posted January 9, 2013 at 02:20 AM Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 at 02:20 AM (edited) Attached is the 2013 FFH trunk. It's pretty deep. The salesman tells me that the trunk has the pass-through and the FFI's trunk is the same (including pass-through) except that the lower section comes out to the lip of the opening, leaving a trunk about the height of a carry-on bag and very deep. It looks to me like 3 or 4 carry-on's and a couple of computer bags. ChuckJ PS Attached is a youtube video that seems to show that the shelf I talked about above doesn't come up to the lip of the trunk. <iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/o9DmRe6MTDY?feature=player_detailpage" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Edited January 9, 2013 at 02:44 AM by ChuckJ pluggedin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluggedin Posted January 9, 2013 at 02:09 PM Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 at 02:09 PM I have seen the C-max energi and the cargo space is very limited. Vehicle size is important to consider. The fusion is larger and gives me a safer feeling. So fusion for me!Now if the new Taurus was an energi then I would choose it. Yes, I want to be as efficient as possible, but you cant put a price on your safety. AIf the Lincoln MKZ came in a plug-in model I think I would buy that over the Fusion Energi. No such animal in 2013 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rprobst Posted January 9, 2013 at 04:20 PM Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 at 04:20 PM Attached is the 2013 FFH trunk. It's pretty deep. The salesman tells me that the trunk has the pass-through and the FFI's trunk is the same (including pass-through) except that the lower section comes out to the lip of the opening, leaving a trunk about the height of a carry-on bag and very deep. It looks to me like 3 or 4 carry-on's and a couple of computer bags. ChuckJ PS Attached is a youtube video that seems to show that the shelf I talked about above doesn't come up to the lip of the trunk. ChuckJ, I am having a hard time understanding what your sales guy told you. I assume by "FFI" you meant the Energi? But it doesn't make sense that the Energi battery comes out to the lip of the trunk opening. First, you'd want to keep the weight over the rear axle. Second, look at this link that pluggedin posted a while back: http://www.evsafetytraining.org/resources/auto-manufacturer-resources/~/media/Files/PDFs/2013%20Fusion%20Hybrid%20%20Fusion%20Energi%20%20MKZ%20Hybrid%20ERG.pdf On page 15 you can clearly see the Energi battery extends higher than the Hybrid battery, but does not extend farther towards the back of the car. So that means the Energi trunk is as high as the Hybrid's but not very deep. Sure wish we could see a picture of the Energi trunk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rprobst Posted January 9, 2013 at 04:24 PM Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 at 04:24 PM If the Lincoln MKZ came in a plug-in model I think I would buy that over the Fusion Energi. No such animal in 2013 though. Yeah, me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relgel Posted January 9, 2013 at 06:52 PM Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 at 06:52 PM I have asked for a picture of what it is going to look like. If i get it, i will share with the forum. I would guess that the pass thru feature would have to remain to keep the situation from getting worse. DelS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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