murphy Posted October 21, 2013 at 12:58 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 at 12:58 PM Pro:If the car wasn't preconditioned the energy would come from the battery or ICE. Con:If the car was in a climate controlled garage the energy would not come from the battery or ICE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russael Posted October 21, 2013 at 01:41 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 at 01:41 PM My own opinion, but I don't think it should be included. Yeah, I understand that you are using grid energy directly for the car to prep it and yeah, remote starting any gas car puts a dent in its fuel economy, but I just think the premise is different. You're sourcing the energy directly from the grid and not using any 'stored fuel' in the vehicle, which is why I think it shouldn't be included. It's kind of like continually topping off the car for heating and cooling needs. Dag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseibel76 Posted October 21, 2013 at 01:51 PM Report Share Posted October 21, 2013 at 01:51 PM I voted no mainly because of the climate controlled garage aspect. I have a heated garage, so I don't have to precondition my NRG in the winter. However, I obviously burn energy to keep the garage heated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Fusion Posted October 22, 2013 at 01:36 AM Report Share Posted October 22, 2013 at 01:36 AM I voted no. I could let my dog sleep on the driver's seat and the car seat would be preheated without even grid energy. :headspin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardp Posted November 24, 2013 at 11:20 PM Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 at 11:20 PM What exactly is "pre-conditioning"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russael Posted November 24, 2013 at 11:27 PM Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 at 11:27 PM It's the usage of a 'go time' or even remote starting the car while it's plugged in. Both will use power from the wall instead of draining the battery or starting the ICE (in certain circumstances). (I don't know what you know yet, so I'll cover the bases): A Go Time is basically a scheduled run of the climate system in the car to set it to a temperature of your choosing for a departure time of your choosing. This will not start the ICE and will use energy solely from the wall to bring your cabin temperature up if it's cold, or down if it's hot. 120v preconditioning is NOT effective in temperature extremes. Larryh lives in MN and he tested 120v go times in ~10 degrees F weather and it pretty much did nothing to bring the temperature up. 240V is far more effective. A Go Time may start warming or cooling your car up to an hour before you actually leave, depending on what the current ambient temperature is. Remote Starting your car will accomplish the same thing, however, instead of having a variable window of a few minutes to an hour, it only has 15 minutes to bring your car to a set temperature. If ambient temperature is too low, it will use both the wall outlet, stored battery energy, and in extreme cold or hot, will actually run the ICE to allow the climate system to consume the most energy and to get your cabin temperature from wherever it is to your set temperature. Hope that answers your question. :) Hybridbear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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