2018 Fusion Energi Titanium used - Pre purchase questions

[dookiebrown]

I have a few questions before pulling the trigger on a purchase. This car has 93k miles.

 

Is there a way to find how many EV miles driven?

 

How about any way to find the last AER on the last full charge?

 

Is there any way to get the HV battery SOH (State Of Health)?

 

Is there a way to get the vehicles service records? Or at least where it was last serviced?

 

Is there a list of questions I should ask about the car? 

What should I inspect?

 

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to make the right decision.

 

Thanks

[muzicman61]

Are you buying from an individual or a dealer?  A dealer may have the vehicle's Car Fax you could ask to see.  That seems like a lot of miles for a 2018 so depending on the price it may or may not be worth it.

[dookiebrown]

On 3/5/2023 at 5:49 AM, muzicman61 said:

Are you buying from an individual or a dealer?  A dealer may have the vehicle's Car Fax you could ask to see.  That seems like a lot of miles for a 2018 so depending on the price it may or may not be worth it.

From Carmax for $16k.

I agree miles are high in such a short time so I'm thinking these must be highway miles and should mean low ev miles which in turn minimal battery cycling? So, much more use of the ICE than battery. 

This is for my son and his commute is ~23miles round trip and no freeway driving.

 

Thanks

[muzicman61]

Highway miles is normally a good sign, however if the previous owner was not familiar with a PHEV, they may have charged it up fully, then hit the interstate at 70mph and drained the battery rather quickly.  If this process were repeated over and over, it could affect the life of the battery and the EV mile range.

[jsamp]

On 3/4/2023 at 5:24 PM, dookiebrown said:

I have a few questions before pulling the trigger on a purchase. This car has 93k miles.

 

Is there a way to find how many EV miles driven?

How about any way to find the last AER on the last full charge?

Is there any way to get the HV battery SOH (State Of Health)?

Is there a way to get the vehicles service records? Or at least where it was last serviced?

Is there a list of questions I should ask about the car? 

What should I inspect?

 

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to make the right decision.

 

Thanks

 

Unfortunately the answer to most of your questions is 'no'.  Carfax will have at least any "recorded" service, but there could have been unrecorded work as well.  The only way to know the SOH is to charge to 100% and do the driving test:

 

set trip odometer to 0

Drive in gently in EV mode at <50MPH until the car switches to hybrid mode (dash shows no EV mode allowed).

record the kWh and miles for that drive from trip odometer.

 

For a 2018 the best you  could get is ~5.5 or 5.6 kWh in that test.  The amount less than that tells the degradation.

Maybe CarMax will allow you to do such a drive test if you pay them a little, but no guarantee they'll agree to it. It'll likely take you 45mins to 1 hour to do such a test.

 

I had a similar situation when I bought mine, except it was 2 years old, 43k miles, and a CPO.  It became evident that it had never or rarely been charged as it got 5.5kWh on my first test.