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On a lease the discount should be 5,007$ plus another for 3,000. That's what is in my energi titanium paperwork. Vet- are you in tristate area? It's hard finding a place that knows what they are doing still

so what’s the trick to get the 100 MPGe? I have been driving the fusion energy to work ( 35 miles) and not charging during the day. my average is 55 MPG. is it possible to get 100 with longer rides and less EV run time? plus even with modest upgrade the ICE runs and puts the MPG at under 20. you would have to be in EV mode over 90% of the time to get close to 100 MPG

im also disapointed in the mpg i see. even on a little incline the gas engine gets under 20mpg. with numbers like this youve got to be in EV mode 90+% of the time to even get close to 100 MPGe. I also drive about 35 miles one way and dont charge at work. my avg was about 55mpg past couple days.

Indeed cool! I'm looking to get a pre-owned car. Does that mean when I set up my view I'll see the previous info of how the car was driven?

not having a ford yet, what is MFM and what does it do? are my worries off base? in short i dont want someone to see/know my location, speed, distance traveled. also security worries me... in case of a hacker gettign in (wallmart and others) i dont want people to know when im not home, how far i am, or when im headed back.... or where home is even !

Murphy – that’s what I am worried about, the cellular transmission of car data, speed, distance, gps location… all goes to Ford servers that then post it in a pretty UI of a web page or mobile device. Regardless Ford has records of all this… and there is no way to opt out of this tracking. Jeff H – if I understood the details of what ford has in the disclaimer then to prevent data capture and tracking I am not allowed to enable/ use SYNC at all. Both instances are just plain wrong. What a world we live in devoid of freedom of choice.

I am learning about my ford mobile and how it knows details about trips taken in the car and where you went. Also about all the issues about it not knowing when its home and following the desired behavior with regards to charging and the like. I don’t like internet/ phone companies tracking my usage details and hate that it seems now the fusion energi will too. Does anyone know if this is the case and how this works? Does ford keep a database of our details?

I am getting my energi from a lease agent not a dealer. if i have issues such as this can i take it to my nearest dealer who supports energi cars for software updates/ service? as we all part of the Ford family? how does this work? ford dealers near me don’t carry or are stopping to carry/ support energi because of too much overhead and no demand... go figure

What's a tsb? I'm getting my car tomorrow and want to make sure it's got the current software updates - if that even makes sence Can the car auto update over wifi like an iPhone?

Every dealer either doesn't sell any, doesn't have any, or isn't authorized to sell/ service them because of low demand. I don't think I'm the only smart guy in the state (ny/nj) but is makes me nervous that it seems no one gets these! Is the cold weather a deal breaker? I feel like I'm missing something here.

Can the car be left outside to charge in rain or snow?

Yes it's dumb to leave a slit that thin as a pass through. You can't even get a snowboard in there. If only the battery was lower to allow more of a pass through area... Ohh well

If in understand these posts then it seems like breaking regenerates the battery charge way way faster than plugging into the wall with 120v Is this true?

If the battery is drained, can breaking we'll regenerate any EV mileage? How many or how effective is this?

For reinforcement I stopped at another ford dealer and was quoted a 24 month lease with 10.5 K miles and zero down lease payments under 300$ Is this even possible? They said msrp is 36K on the car

im about to pull the trigger on a 2014 titanium with Nav for zero down and 407 monthly payments for 24 months on a 10.5K milage lease. Thats 24 payments of 407$. with first month, plates and bank fee (1600$ down) payments would be 343$ monthly. I went with zero down. good or bad deal?

As an aside, the numbers presented in this thread should help countless others, and those soon to be in the same shoes... I think it's important to note many of the responders are west coast/ Cali. Though I lose a fair amount of the actuals posted here because I am in the NY/ NJ area. It still seems like a good gamble to take. There is more upside potential whereas the downside is capped. It's a scary choice but theoretically logic dictates it's a good move. Thanks posters for the incredible detail and info presented here.

It seems the energi is a great choice if you make lots of small trips - about 20 mikes total. This way you are mostly using EV to get around. It's less desirable if you have longer typical drives of 50 or more mikes since your caped at 20 mikes of EV mode you will burn gas most of the time. And if you frequently go long - over 60 mile trips than the weight of the battery detracts from mpg and the hybrid would be best since you get additional 5mpg and because the EV driving will be only a small amount of the road driven. Not charging at work would be a big hit and put me on the wrong side of the fence. If able to charge at work than energi seems to edge out the hybrid. Thoughts?

Another hard pill to swallow is the savings in gas don't seem to amount to as many dollar savings as you would hope for seeing the huge mileage people get on a tank if gas. In the below example 10$ spend on EV driving vs about 80 in typical fa cars means only 70$ of savings. The hurdle in my mind is I can get a luxury Lexus or infinity sedan for zero out of pocket and monthly payments of about 375$. But for a ford the lease is 440$ monthly keeping everything else the same. Hence the gas savings pretty much equal the increased bill of the Energi. Lacking is the rocket tack off of red lights and the like. Is my thinking off?

I am going to look over both cars today, the hybrid looks great, but the trunk was alerted to me by sales man over the phone. I’m making sure its enough space for me. My previous post was updated to state my elec cost is 0.15 (.1048 for service and another .0368 for delivery) Thanks all for the great help, Ild love to see a graph as im a technical engineer

I called the elec co. and found i am paying a flat rate of $.15 per KilawattHour. no discount for night usage.

80% is highway. since charging daily at work, i think it best/ most affordable option is to deplete the battery daily to get a full day charge at work. Also, at what price of electricity does it get cheaper or more expensive than using the Gas motor? For example if gas is 3.50 at what price of electricity does and doesn’t make sense to charge? please explain the math details so I can grasp the concept

I am considering being a first time EV car owner and looking at the Energi and hybrid titanium models. I have read a lot of things that have confused me about batteries and over all user experience of the Fusion in general. Can someone outline some of the basics and intricacies I should know prior to taking the plunge? In particular the 2 batteries, there seems to be one 12V battery that dies and disables the entire car. This worries me. Can it be in the Energi that I get stuck and cannot use the car for any reason? I want the car to be 100% reliable so my thinking is since the Energi and Hybrid take gas they should always start and operate fully (AC,radio, navigation, windows, heated seats…) no matter what. Can anyone help me wrap my head around how these models function in real life and address the items mentioned at the lease. (the more info the better ;-)

I have a 35 mile commute to work from my house i do 5 times a week. and i do some light weekend driving. I plan to charge at my work garage for free daily but that isnt such a big save seeing it gets me about half a gallon equivalent only. im faced with a 403$/ month lease on the Energi and a 445$/mnth for the hybrid titanium models. I wanted to justify my logic that with these prices the Energi is a no brainer winner.

I am looking to get a new car and the energi interests me but I worry about my ekectric bill. What do some current owners see the cost if charging a car being? Does anyone know the price of a charge? I don't want to regret my first EV car In looking to test the waters with a 24 month lease. With discounts the energi is cheaper than the hybrid. I'm just worried about fuel cost - gas and ekectric!