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I am looking at getting that one too. Home Depot has it. I have a link in the other thread that will pull up the all the chargers there. http://www.fordfusionenergiforum.com/topic/509-residential-charging-stations-now-what/?p=1037

I think the whole mpge has a bit of refinement left to go... I was amazed when I saw the fusion and the cmax had the same rating... what? I just hope that the 21 miles range is close to right. I have a 22 mile round trip to work and still lobbying my employer for a charger. Going to just ask for plug next. I know that when I run the air (it gets hot here... not going to trade comfort for range) I am going to lose some. I will probably ride to work with my coat on though.

Got an email today with the same subject as this thread. it reads: Announcing the Fusion Energi plug-in hybridIts sleek and athletic lines convey agility and power. Yet this is also one incredibly efficient vehicle, with an EPA-estimated rating of 108 city MPGe.* The all-new Fusion Energi plug-in hybrid can make trips of up to an EPA-estimated 620** miles without stopping for gas or a recharge when starting with a full tank of gas and fully charged battery. Plus, it delivers up to an EPA-estimated 21-mile range on a fully charged battery.** With some other little blurbs in there. Hopefully this means that they are ready to start pumping these things out! It has been 5 weeks since I ordered and still do not have a VIN (that I know about). Plan to send an email to my salesman on Thursday to again check progress. Anybody else get this email?

Thanks Taylor... added Maryland.

Actually Energized, the circumference remains the same, but the unsprung weight and reduced sidewall of the tire will greatly impact the the way the car drives / feels. The car will rid more firm and acceleration will also slow. Steering and cornering will generally feel more controlled. There should be no affect to the speedometer accuracy, but I am not sure about braking. I would think that would be minimal if noticeable at all. Gas mileage will drop. given some of the conversation on the other forum from the people who put the bigger tires on their hybrid, it could be substantial.

How many miles between charges do you think you would be driving?

Well, the Volt is using the EREV model, but GMs choice of using a gas engine (that runs premium fuel no less) makes it a little less efficient on longer trips then some of the technology that is being developed (EV + diesel). Problem is that this technology is still being developed and young. If you are interested in the technology, and I completely get that, then go for it. I thought you were looking for the most efficient solution. Now, the FFE will give you plenty of range at 620 miles before refilling and burns regular gas http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=37597

Do not think a Tesla would work for you, as even with the largest battery you would have to charge after ~200 miles. I am guessing you exceed that in a day frequently. The Volt and Fusion Energi (FFE) both excel for short commutes as you pointed out, with the Volt excelling on commutes 20-40 miles, and about a was for commutes under 20 miles. As your trips grow longer the FFE starts to overtake the Volt as its engine drive is more efficient then the all electric / generator solution of the Volt. However! If you are looking for the best solution for high mile trips, you should look at either the hybrid, like the Fusion hybrid (47 mpg EPA), or a diesel car. Both would do better then the Volt of FFE in that use. Edit: Both the Fusion Energi and Volt would return excellent mileage compared to most cars, just you would be paying extra for the battery that you would not frequently use. You would get better gas mileage for less money with a hybrid or diesel car. Hope that helps.

I called Geek squad too and asked what they would do, was also unimpressed. I am thinking about taking a trip to homedepot and lowes this weekend to inquire on their install costs. Thanks for posting that shaggy!

First paragraph -- congrats! Second paragraph -- I feel your pain!

I left mine with the dealer, but it had very few exclusions. I can remember the Mustang 302 boss, I have another coupon in the back of my brochure at work, I can check tomorrow. I do notice that it calls out the CMAX energi as a different car then a Ford hybrid. Might be worth a shot.

My salesman told me this and added that if the rebates are somehow better then I can use those. I have the rebates written into my bill of sale, which makes me feel pretty good on at least that topic. (Would still like to see a scheduled build date and VIN).

pluggedin -- I think both cases are correct. In the case of the lease, the leasing company technically owns the car and therefor gets the tax incentive (you wont qualify). The leasing company then turns around an offers you an incentive that is roughly equivalent (they keep the $1) to the tax credit. If you want to lease this can actually work to your advantage because they give it to your right away, you don't have to wait until next year to claim it on your taxes. All normal disclaimers apply... not a tax atty, I read that somewhere, I could have it wrong, yada yada...

Welcome to the forum EnergiManta. And a fellow NCer too!

Keep the suggestions coming. I think I have caught the majors ones in the summary, but let me know if I have missed anything.

I have only changed the wheels on my car once in the past. I had a 1997 BMW 528i that had 15" wheels and I put on 17s. I ended up losing about 2 MPG in addition to firming up the ride considerably. I learned a lot with that experience though, the main reason you lose gas mileage is mostly weight, not diameter of the rims. The overall size of the tire does not really change. You need to pay attention to the total weight, both the tire and the rims. The other additional cost came from the increased cost of the tire. Depending on the size it can be considerable. When I look for the above size, 285/35/R18, I only find one tire that is low rolling resistance https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Sport+3&partnum=835YR8PS3XL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes at about 3 times the cost of the EOM tires.

Thanks for the research pluggedin I added this to my summary post on the topic as well.

Maybe. I find it odd that there are no wheel options for the energi. I would want to talked to a trained mechanic first. Unsprung weight can have a significant affect on performance, even if the speedometer is not affected. You will lose efficiency going to the 18s. There is also a significant jump in price for that tire size (the 18s)

did a search for a tire diameter calculator which says you new tire would be larger making the speedometer too slow by 1.822% and the closest you can find would be 285/35R18 http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp Not sure if there are any other adverse affects of changing to that size but your tire store could tell you. (Turning radius, etc)

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Very nice! I am going to ask my electrician to wire it up that way too. Also move this over to my other thread as a hint/tip

I also really like that. Used the site to send a request to them to find out more information and also ignored. Can not really find any information on that charger, makes me wonder if that is a failed start up or something.

I am sure its on its way if you ordered a brochure, I just got my third one (this time from my other local dealership from my visit I guess). They seem to be pushing hard.

The event is already over, but you might want to contact the even organizer in your area. The focus here was city infrastructure, but the people probably have some clue about home charging as well. Let us know what you find out! http://tucsonplugsin.blogspot.com/

Great advice murphy. Here is the link for the post for quick access ===> http://www.fordfusionenergiforum.com/topic/536-l1-charging-amperage-requirements/?p=1254