meyersnole

Welcome to the forum Flyer. I think you will find a wealth of information here along with many nice people share your experiences.

The topic is in the forum, you can find it here: http://www.fordfusionenergiforum.com/topic/805-2014-energi-changes-get-your-bordeaux-order-in-now/?p=3675 2014 Model Year Ford Fusion Energi changes: Heated Steering Wheel (52A) – late availabilityNew Colors: Dark Side (BT), Sunset (D7) - which have since had name changes to Darkside Metallic and Sunset Metallic on the 2014 Taurus and Explorer…so we expect the same for the 2014 Fusion Energi when it is made available to the public)Deleted Colors: Ginger Ale and Bordeaux ReserveNew Interior Option: Medium Soft Ceramic on Energi Titanium (late availability)New Interior Option: Dune available with Sterling Gray exteriorNew Interior Option: Red Leather Package available on TitaniumFront Heated and Cooled Seats (46B) – late availabilityRear Inflatable Seat Belts (67B)

Believe it or not, the car is very sensitive to where the "key" is, and yes it knows when it is in or out of the car. The first thing I thought was take the key out of your pocket -- I too have made the mistake of washing the car with the key in my pocket, and yes the car locks went crazy. It will not do this driving down the road nor the car wash (although I have only hand washed so far so I can not attest to that last statement). As far as locking and unlocking. You unlock the car by grabbing the handle, not getting near it. I think you have to do something to lock it, at least I touch the handle to hear it lock -- every time. You will not be able to remote start this car accidentally, too many key presses to do it randomly. I would never consider turning off the keyless entry, one of my favorite features of the car. Like it almost as much as the adaptive cruise... which probably is my favorite.

Not a mechanical engineer, but I think this is not a matter of what is is harder to manage in EV later and more of how to get the best efficiency from the hybrid drive. If you are traveling down the road and there is excess power, then I hope that would be stored to a certain point and then used instead or in addition of ICE allowing my large car carrying around an 800 lbs battery get 40mpg on the highway.

Why did you put premium fuel in there? So that it will last a little longer? Or something else?

You are killing it on the brake score! I get caught by lights or traffic too many times (people pulling out in front of me) that keeps my score down. 92 I think.

So mine actually was actually listed on something called a Contract of Sale that I got when I placed the order. Maybe you could get that updated with the coupon in it?

I hope my install will not be that complex. I have the panel in the garage, guess I will just have to set it up to find out what they charge. Thanks for sharing. I agree, $2,500 to lower you bill a bit seems excessive. I have that same issue with my irrigation system and installing a second meter. They want about $1,800 for a site survey.

I thought the tesla used a different charge method. I am pretty sure you only use a cord and the outlet, and the charger is built into the car. Edit: I see the model S also has the standard charger! Model S also comes with a J1772 adapter to be used with public charging stations. However, you still have a nice charger that should work on whatever PEV car you chose next.

If you don't mind sharing your estimate and experience, I am also considering this route.

Shaggy, you like that one over the Bosh EL-51253? 18ft cord, 30A for ~$600? http://www.pluginnow.com/power-max2

They did not apply the coupon when you ordered? They told me that once the coupon was accepted in the system I did not have to worry about the date anymore. Now, I ended up having to worry about the date, but that was only because I switched cars...they still made it work though.

This is a whole new world, and I think there is not going to be a standard answer on charging at the dealership as unfortunately they have not given it that much thought. When I purchased my car, the salesman told me I was welcome anytime to plug it in. He even told me that he had an owner of a Nissan Leaf come by and ask if he could get a charge. He said he struggled with the question but thought the goodwill created by letting the guy charge for an hour or two might pay him back in the future. Honestly, when you think about it that was probably pretty smart. How long is they guy really going to spend there anyway. (2 hours = ~50 cents) and maybe he walks around and looks at what Ford now brings to the table for PEV? FusionEnergi's post above is even more ridiculous. The owner of a Ford can't use 25-50 cents of power because they didn't buy from you? Very short sighted. Lets see, someone who likes my product but for whatever reason did not purchase from me so I will spend $$$ in advertising to see if I can get them on my lot but I wont spend ~25cents/hour in goodwill that has them trapped on their lot. Brilliant! And bonus, I might leave them with hard feelings too! Now I could understand setting up some ground rules, but just no? Another great suggestion from FusionEnergi above was to put in a charger on the chargepoint network and charge a nominal fee for it (cost recovery), still a better answer then no.

At the risk of turning this into a political discussion (I hope not), I have heard the talking points and there are some merits. However, i believe doing nothing is not the answer. Yes coal and fossil fuels comprise about 70% of US power grid production in 2009, but that number and lumping them together as equal is not looking at situation fairly. (I think it is time for me to stick my disclaimer in here: These are my thoughts. I am not trying to force any opinion on anyone and just explaining -- or attempting to explain -- how I see the world.) OK... where was I, coal usage as a percentage of our power grid is actually declining. While I would like to say that this decline is offset mainly by renewable energy the main reason seems to be natural gas which is both positive (cleaner then coal or gasoline when burned) and negative (environmental impact of hydraulic fracturing comes to mind). Now, while gas may account for the majority of the displacement it is not all of it. There is significant investment world wide in renewable energy (biofuels, wind, solar), and efforts in carbon trading, LEED certification, and efficiency through things like CAFE standards (Hello! PHEV) are all having their effects. As mentioned in an earlier rant, I know I am on the front end of this technology and the benefits are not as great as they will be in the future. But as also mentioned earlier, hybrid cars use to be a lot less efficient than they are now. Better battery chemistry, materials, and engineering have come a long way through the experience as I expect PHEV and EV will continue down that path. Yes, the batteries are currently using rare elements and it will not scale to the population. Yes, there are disposal issues with the chemicals in the battery. Yes, some of these vehicles are powered by coal. However, the batteries are improving rapidly in chemical composition and we are learning how to reclaim and deal with hazardous materials. Many of these vehicles are powered by means other then fossil fuels (mine is powered by nuclear -- which has it own set of issues). Maybe, just maybe Ford, GM, Tesla, Toyota, .... have found an alternate approach to efficiency to help us meet our ever increasing desire for power that will keep us driving down the road just a little longer. Personally I hope we acknowledge the current issues and keep finding incremental solutions that lead to breakthroughs and new paradigms.

Did microsoft actually write this? Or just lent their name to it? Not a huge fan of microsoft, but their software is usually a little better than this system. Hopefully they keep publishing fixes.

Thanks 47! I think mine is getting louder, I might make a trip in soon.

Like the color choice ;)

Haha! Right, Sync Performing Scheduled Maintenance... This has to be some of the most poorly written piece of software in the field. It crashes... I mean performs maintenance at the most odd times! I actually saw it segmentation fault once before going to that maintenance screen. MFT is probably my biggest disappointment in this car. I am guessing they had a completely different vendor program the console and coaches, which is by far the best interface I have seen in a car.

Interesting. When I went to pick up my car they were detailing it etc, so it was not left plugged in but like it was mentioned earlier while I was filling out the paperwork the car was sitting on the charger. I was not able to complete the charge by the time we finished, but they simply asked me to move the car to the service area and plug it back in (so I would not get locked in as they closed up the lot for the night). I then went to dinner while my car completed its charge. I also came in to have my mud flaps installed. Left the car for the day, and they dropped me at work. I simply asked them to return the car to their charger after service. The guy was happy to oblige, but asked me to show him how to plug the car in! The joys of a brand new model. When I picked up the car that afternoon, the car was plugged into the charger and 100% charged. So far I am very happy with my dealership choice. No they do not have to do this, but my previous dealership (acura dealer) did not have to wash my car before delivering it back to me either. But they did. Just one of those things that gets you to come back to the dealer rather than Joe mechanic down the street.

I still feel lucky I was able to get the X plan with this offer and the $1500. I can still remember when my salesman came back from checking it out and telling me no problem, the system took it. SWEET! Guess the accountants saw a few of those go through and stopped it.

If you look at the "deferred" cost of gas would be another way to state what Del referenced. The price we pay in increased health bills from breathing smog, the cost to stabilize a region of the planet so we can keep the crude flowing, or the cost of increased CO2 in global warming (erratic and frequent weather events) to name a few. One could argue the measure of effect or causality but I would agree with Del that it is often overlooked. At least this is what I think Del is referring.

I responded to your post in the other thread here: http://www.fordfusionenergiforum.com/topic/772-ford-fusion-energi-real-ev-battery-range/?p=3888

Help us out a little and we may be able to help. Are you running the climate system? (heat or A/C) (If the climate system is on, click it off and watch the gauge instantly put miles on to the range estimate). How good are your braking scores? 90%-100% or 30%-40%? (Regeneration is critical to the full range) Have you tried the coaching screen? What is your Cruising Score? Your Brake score? Your Acceleration score? How much of your trip is on the highway? How fast are you driving on the highway? (Higher speeds will drain the battery quickly) If you drive this car like you might drive a gas powered car, then 17-19 miles seems reasonable, especially if you are running the heater or A/C.

The other thing I love about the cruise control is that it accelerates so much better than I do. Smooth and efficient when it is in ECO mode. For the first week or so that I had it I would often brake before I the car would, even set to 3 bars. Not I have gotten more comfortable (although I still tend to hover my foot over the brake). In my opinion, one of the best features of the car.

The waiting will just make it that much sweeter to drive it off the lot. Just make sure they have it charged up for you!