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And that's another moving part of the puzzle... I have heard rumors that the White House plans to propose a change to the tax incentive for 2013, so that it won't be proportional to the battery size -- above a certain threshold, all EVs and plug-in hybrids would get the same size incentive. I don't know if this rumor is true, but looking at the pricing difference between the Fusion Energi and C-Max Energi Chevy Volt, I wonder if Ford knew what is about to be proposed -- or at least, heard that same rumor and believed it. Pluggedin,definitely agree with your point that you'd hope changes in incentives are retroactive. I'd hate to buy today, with one set of incentives, and then discover I could have saved money by waiting. And of course, that's why this stuff is not discussed openly, because even the discussion could freeze the market. (edited to fix slip: my brain thought "Chevy Volt" but my fingers typed "C-Max Energi")

Taylorjd, I have not heard those rumors, but I sure would like to. I hope we see price competition develop between the Fusion Energi, the Volt, and the Accord plug-in (and between the C-Max Energi and the plug-in Prius). Love to see the manufacturers fight for our business, and thus speed up the adoption of plug-ins. Not to mention, I'd like to save some money here. So please share whatever rumors you have heard.

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Of course, if I bought an Accord plug-in hybrid, I'd have to add in a couple thousand more for some custom body work to get rid of that god-awful front end. Talk about ugly!

Now we know what the base Accord plug-in hybrid will cost: $39,780 http://www.egmcartech.com/2012/11/29/2014-honda-accord-plug-in-hybrid-price/ But need to do a true comparison by figuring what is included in that price versus what is optional on the Fusion Energi, or vice versa.

Ahh, I see my mistake: I forgot about extra-cost paint. Thanks, pluggedin, I spec'd it just as you said and KBB gave me the same $45,150 number. The reason I am so interested is that I am getting ready to order my Fusion Energi Titanium, and wanted to be sure KBB was accurate (or, at least, that I knew how to use it!). I plan to order Ice Storm (light blue), Driver Assist Pkg, Adaptive Speed Control, Navigation System, Moon Roof, and premium floor mats. Navigation instead of Parking Assist because I am more likely to be lost than to have trouble getting into a parking space. KBB prices that combination as $44,855 MSRP ($41,326 invoice). The other thing I was wondering, pluggedin, is whether you paid MSRP precisely, or a discounted price, or (shudder) a dealer premium? Are Ford dealers negotiating on this car yet, or are they treating it like a special?

pluggedin, you must really have loaded your order! I went to KBB and spec'd a Fusion Energi Titanium with every option except the voice-activated nav (since you said that's the only option you didn't take), and it only came up to a $44,880 MSRP. What did you put on that car to get to $45,150?

I think the real motivation for the 62 MPH limit is to be able to complete the EPA highway test under electric power. The EPA test does not go faster than 60 MPH. This is what allowed the Fusion Hybrid to post 47/47/47 MPG results. So normal people driving at normal highway speeds will get lower mileage. But still better than any non-hybrid.

Very cool that the dealer was able to do this for you, even though the car is not yet up on Ford's Build&Price web site. Can I ask, what did you pay? MSRP?