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@Hybridbear -- I wouldn't mind going with a 2016 as they phase into the 2017 model, but I'd be reluctant to go much further with a car that relies pretty heavily on that battery lasting. It would be ideal to get at least 15 miles range out of it over the next 6 years...I don't know how long the batteries hold their max charge. Wow, 30% off? If I can manage that, I'll be a ford owner for sure. Even 25% will likely get the job done for me. @stevedebi -- i haven't sat in the HR-V yet. I'll probably test drive the fusion first and if I can't find a deal that works for me, I'll try the HR-V when their new model comes out -- I'm not that keen on buying a first model year of a car.

Other car I'm considering is the Honda HR-V. It certainly isn't an apple to apple comparison -- we're talking about a crossover vs an electric/hybrid...and each has some features the other doesn't have. collision detection and leather for the energi titanium, AWD for HR-V. If after rebates and incentives, i could get within 4K of what the HR-V goes for, I'd rather the ford -- which is part of the reason I'm considering a 2016 fusion at the end of their model year. Just not sure I can get a dealer down close to 20% off MSRP.

@hybridbear - yes, I'm factoring the federal credit into my math. Part of the issue is that the other car I'm considering is 15K less in MSRP and average 33MPG. the $4000 back helps close the gap a bit and i will see some fuel savings but that will take years and may only recoup another $1200 - 3000. So if I buy the car it'll likely have to be a decision to pay a good chunk of change towards preserving the planet. That is part of the reason I'm considering a 2016 model with the 2017's hitting lots soon. @jeffh - My commute is 15 miles round trip so I wouldn't use gas during the week for the most part. @mrmikel - I realize gas prices won't stay this low forever. I calculated the average price at $2.50 to get an idea on my fuel savings. If it takes a year to start moving up again and reaches $3 range, I figure on the average over 6 years owning the car will be $2.50 or so. Any idea what kind of discount can be had on last years models with ford?

Hello, I'm new to the forum and looking at the FFE Titanium as an option for my next car. I love the look of the car, but am a little concerned that with $1.69 gas in New Jersey, that the overall cost of the car will outweigh any benefits I'll see in fuel savings. If people wouldn't mind sharing out the door price paid and included options on their FFE, it'll help me figure out if the cost difference is low enough to make financial sense. I saw in another post that the 2017's are available for order and even cheaper this year. I'm wondering how that'll affect the pricing on 2016's that they are trying to get off the lot. I actually prefer the body style on the 2016, and though I'd like sync 3 I think I may try to negotiate on a 2016 instead as they try to clear them out. Does anyone know when 2017's are due to hit dealers -- I'm guessing that will be the best time to see my local dealer? Also, if there are any benefits in driving a plug in that I might not know about, that'll help in making a decision.