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openair

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  1. The orange wrench can come on for many many reasons. It is a power train fault warning lamp. You'll need a dealer or someone with an odb2 reader for any more information. My orange wrench came on weather relatedly for many months and did not store the trouble code. I had to wait for the weather and light to coincide with a dealer being open and have a hybrid tech who wasn't all booked up that day. It turned out, that in my case, the electric heater was defective and has been replaced twice since.
  2. Glad I didn't waste money getting this replaced then. I have had this issue reoccur and disappear numerous times this winter. Always in unison with wet then cold weather. I wouldn't waste too much time at the dealer with this If I were you. Thery've already replaced it with the current part and unless the part number changes replacing it again wont do much. The cap also isn't covered even by my premium care ESP while the charger port itself should be covered under the hybrid warranty so ford obviously isn't worried about premature port failure due to faulty caps.
  3. I've experienced this a few times over the past year. Starting at the drive in theatre with the ac on, then a couple times with the heat on (could accept this as normal) and now today with the climate controls completely off. The vehicle is parked for 10+ minutes, in auto, with 25% to 75%+ charge of the hvb in all instances and the engine starts, runs for about 30 seconds and then stops. The time it occurred at the drive in theatre I shut down the vehicle and started it again and the engine did not run for the rest of the two hours parked there in exactly the same conditions. It may only occur when the vehicle is parked after having been placed in Ev later for a period before being parked. Anyone else experience similar?
  4. Yes, I experienced this and there is a service bulletin for earlier year models for this issue involving updating the front controls interface module. Your 2016 should have newer software already though. The update did resolve the issue for me.
  5. Yes, it is just an estimate. No one knows exactly how they calculate this estimate but things like the heater using less energy because more heat is coming from the ice or reducing your average speed from highway to city speed affect the estimate but not immediately like turning the heater completely off does. The estimate slowly updates to an increased estimated range. Implying there are some time weighted calculations. A possible outcome of both either overly complex or overly simply time weighted estimates is that when certain, often rare, conditions are met the estimate can have weird results. Today, 11c outside, 20c inside the vehicle due to Sun. I park the vehicle turning off the ac that was blowing cool air. 20km range estimated. 68%. With it off. Go inside store. Come back out to the vehicle. 20km range estimated. 68%. Ac still off. I sit parked for 10 to 15 minutes. Ac still off. Estimated range rises to 21km. 67%. An artifact of the calculation imo.
  6. Is the vehicle set to charge now or value charge? Possibly value charge profiles are having it charge to 25% and than wait for the value window for the rest. Try setting it to charge now under the leaf icon on the touch screen
  7. Yes the engine will turn off when not needed to save fuel. Not running the engine uselessly is part of how a hybrid saves fuel. The engine will automatically start again when needed. All you have to do is drive the vehicle like you would normally. Even some newer non hybrids have start stop systems that stop the engine when it is not needed. Many manufactures plan to transition most if not all of their vehicles to 48v mild hybrids that will not have an electric motor and mostly function as advanced start stop system.
  8. I've experienced this as well. What Murphy says is very possible but I've experienced this in 20c weather iirc. Imo it's an artifact of some time weighted calculations that are part of the range estimate.
  9. There was an article in the news here in Canada a couple months back about a woman who's 2013-2016 (I forget exactly) fusion hybrid had been in the shop for months for an engine problem. It was eventually decided it was her fault for only driving the vehicle short distances so the oil never got hot enough to clean out all the moisture. Ford told her the solution was a minimum of 15 minutes at highway speeds once a week. Omm is to prevent this kind of thing from happening in these phevs but I don't believe omm runs anywhere near that frequency, length or as though the vehicle were driven at highway speeds. I wouldn't count on omm to prevent this sort of thing or that omm not preventing this means a gasket leak. In fact if our ice were run about as much as her full hybrids ice would have for her 3 miles each way commute it would probably prevent omm from running at all.
  10. I experienced this for about 2 minutes just yesterday. Same clicking noise too. It fixed itself after the wife and I tried both the drivers and passengers window controls a few more times. It had been frozen shut a few days prior and I wonder if this doesn't have something to do it.
  11. I was mistaken. It did not break after days of being stiff. Now that the weather has warmed up (above freezing) it latches and springs like new. Just as others have reported here. Imo definitely a vulnerability in newer charger caps to cold weather and allowing ice to form inside the mechanism.
  12. Those of us in Canada who are completely avoiding this field service action due to all the issues reported here by multiple owners while there is nothing wrong with our current modem are also curious. My original 2g modem still works flawlessly because the MFM provider here in canada is not dropping 2g yet.
  13. Still works here in Canada. Should for quite a while as Rogers is not dropping 2g yet AFAIK. I've told my dealership I won't be letting them do the new modem for awhile.
  14. I agree the battery should last longer and that 50% degradation should trigger the warranty. However this is not really good care. Li-on batteries do not have memory as the once ubiquitous nicads did. Fully discharging a Li-on causes degradation. Fully charging a Li-on causes degradation. Leaving it fully charged for extended periods of time causes degradation. Level 2 charging a battery as small as the one in these also causes much more degradation than level 2 charging a larger battery (made of more cells). If you're buying another Ev do not wait until it is fully discharged to charge it. Try to use things like value charge profiles to have the battery reach full charge shortly before driving the vehicle. Some full Evs have options to only charge the battery to 80% to improve longevity of the battery.
  15. I am also now experiencing this issue. It was very difficult to open and close for a few days during and after -10c. After a few days of this it now will not latch or spring open properly and just rests sort of half open half closed. I am told that it is not covered by my extended service plan and will be a diagnostic fee, labour fee and $78 for the part and that the part has not changed since it was replaced for the led not working about 12 months ago. The first two winters I owned the vehicle I had zero issue with the charging port sticking or not latching. It seems to me that the new part they're using to resolve the led issue is defective causing this spring and latch issue. Ford Canada tells me they can do nothing until it is diagnosed. I told them I will not be paying for an hour diagnostic fee for them to look at it for 30 seconds and say yes it won't latch only for Ford Canada to then tell me though luck just as they did with the electric heater. Nor will I be paying out of pocket for the same part that will only break again and that I will instead be driving around with the latch open and telling everyone who points it out that Ford cannot actually fix the issue and will only charge me to throw the same defective part at it over and over.
  16. 11. The second paragraph is a broken quote from the op. Hence the . Jeff_H: I revised the post above so it should be good now.
  17. My vehicle was in for a powertrain fault anyway so I thought I'd have them do the modem at the same time since I've received a letter and multiple emails stating it needs to be replaced to maintain service past December 2016. But the dealership tells me they cannot order the part yet. That these new modem are not available in Canada yet. Which makes some sense since there is no rush AFAIK because Rogers is not dropping 2g for awhile yet but why keep spamming me with emails then Ford??
  18. I was in at home depot and home hardware the other day looking to replace an outlet and I kept getting the opposite from them. They even went as far as to say that, here in Ontario Canada anyway, regulations require the push in type and not the wire around a screw type. Of course these two places often are not the brightest bunch but my only other options are industrial type electrician suppliers who may not even be allowed to sell to me.
  19. My cost is my $100 deductible because I bought a premium care ESP. Idk what their cost is this time but last time it was replaced they said it was $1000 Canadian for the part alone. I did remind him it's the exact same issue that was diagnosed under the factory warranty and 'fixed' with a fix that only lasted 12 months and he confirmed deductible of my ESP applies. Edit: 3 months. I just called Ford and they tell me replacement parts are only covered for 3 months or 5000km in Canada.
  20. The dealership was able to pull this DTC (p01eb) without the orange wrench on today. Unlike 3 other dealerships ten+ months ago. Whether this is due to a software update (the fcim was updated about a month ago while I had been told it was up to date a few times in the past) or the other dealerships not knowing what they're doing idk. They also tell me the part number for the replacement heater has changed twice in the past ten months meaning there was likely a known issue with the original and my replaced heater model. However I am being charged my ESP deductible even though my heater was replaced ten months ago and they pulled the exact same DTC for this issue that has existed since the vehicle was under the bumper to bumper warranty.
  21. I may or may not have figured out a way to reproduce the coolant heater performance DTC when your electric heater is working poorly or not at all. However, again, this DTC is not stored beyond one to three power cycles of the vehicle and you'll have to reproduce it at or near the dealership. At ambient temperatures ranging from -3 to +6 Celsius run the ice to warm up the vehicle with the climate controls set to 21c (or above?). You may need to drive the vehicle to get the ice and heater coolant to about 1/3 up the temp guage. After the vehicle is warm but not too hot allow the ice to turn off and drive or park and allow the climate controls to run on electric heat alone for a time. You should see the temp guage eventually begin to fall if your heater is not working well. If the temp guage falls low enough (below the hash mark on the guage?) you should see the orange wrench illuminate. Your mileage may vary with model year, ambient temperature, precipitation and how poor your electric heater is performing.
  22. 4.6 is expected this time of year with a two year old vehicle. I get 5.0 at best in the summer. I think you're wasting your time op. Miles is far too variable to judge anything from. KWh is best. 12 miles at 70mph is 18 at 35mph. These tests Ford is doing over and over are also a sham to appease you and the dealer. If Ford wanted to replace the battery they could very easily account for 2% variance between current state of change and the state of charge they want the test performed.
  23. Since Rogers (the telecom who supplies mfm coverage here in Canada) isn't abandoning 2g yet I was expecting to be waiting until they are to have my modem replaced. However I recieved the letter today. Since there is nothing wrong with my current modem though I'll be waiting until they get some of these issues others have reported here sorted out.
  24. i do have a block heater. I have not used it this fall. I dont believe ive used it since before the electric heater was replaced.
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